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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
It was more in the statement that the troops were provoked. Dropping white boxes which possibly contain bombs or birthday cakes, threatening troops aboard.. sounds like a good run up to war to feed the US public.


in both videos it was the same task force, CG 73, DDG 70, FFG 61, just at different times. you have to look really close in the Iran vid but the Iranians made sure to get the hull numbers as task force passed and overtook the Iranian small boat to their starboard.

you can also kinda make out "73" on the hull in the Amercan version. and to me it looks like the bridge of an Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate (FFG 61) it surely isn't an Arleigh Burke (DDG 70)

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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by Lemonad
It was more in the statement that the troops were provoked.


so? were they attacked? no.

i understand you want to make it more than it really is. you want your imagination to run wild because you hate somebody or some administration or some thing who knows, but you do it at the risk of some very shallow thinking.

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US Navy fired warning at Iranian craft

CAIRO, Egypt - The U.S. Navy said Friday that one of its ships fired warning shots at a small Iranian boat in the Strait of Hormuz in December during one of two serious encounters that month.

The USS Whidbey Island fired the warning shots on Dec. 19 in response to a small Iranian boat that was rapidly approaching it, said a U.S. Navy official.

"One small (Iranian) craft was coming toward it, and it stopped after the Whidbey Island fired warning shots," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

It was the first official confirmation that the United States had fired warning shots in any recent confrontation with Iran in the Gulf.

In the second incident that month, the USS Carr encountered three small Iranian craft on Dec. 22, two of which were armed, said the official. The USS Carr did not fire warning shots, but sent warning blasts on the ships whistle, which caused the boats to turn around.

The reports come a day after the United States lodged a formal diplomatic protest with Iran over an incident Sunday in which Iranian speedboats harassed U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf.

Adm. William J. Fallon, the top U.S. military commander in the Mideast, said Friday that Iran runs the risk of triggering an unintended conflict if its boats continue to harass U.S. warships in the strait.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080111...ea/iran_us_navy


oh boy things arent looking looking good at all,It seems like the U.S is just ready to shoot at anything these days and not even think about the consequences.


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080111...ea/iran_us_navy


oh boy things arent looking looking good at all,It seems like the U.S is just ready to shoot at anything these days and not even think about the consequences.


but of course, the iranians should be free to continue to harass and bait the americans.


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but of course, the iranians should be free to continue to harass and bait the americans.



ya those poor Americans.


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ya those poor Americans.


haha!

but seriously, nobody should be behaving like this. im more worried about the poor iranians that end up getting shot because of a heated situation they helped create


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UN Inspector Scott Ritter on a conflict with Iran


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It is good to see that there are actually people out there who do believe that attacking Iran will create more problems for the world and the U.S. Whats shocking for me here is that this admin is actually considering using nukes as a weapon of choice to attack Iran.


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Scott Ritter - Target Iran




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Q5echo
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Re: UN Inspector Scott Ritter on a conflict with Iran

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fear monger.

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Scott Ritter interview on Democracy Now




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Re: Re: UN Inspector Scott Ritter on a conflict with Iran

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fear monger.


You CAN'T be serious...?

You neoconservatives are the KINGS of fear mongering...Remember 'weapons of mass destruction' as an excuse to invade Iraq? That just may be the defining definition of fear mongering....

Bombing Iran is not only NOT in the interest of American national security, but will as the man said, hurt our national security far more as the Islamists have said..."Blood for blood, destruction for destruction." I guess you really don't know your enemy, do you? You think they are just going to lay down their weapons and praise "freedom and democracy" right?

You hate Al-Qaida? Let me tell you, bombing Iran will give Islamist groups everywhere the world over, the incentive to become militants, to fight against what they see as an attack on Islam.

Your ideology will be America's downfall... So sad the Guliani types claim they will protect us all, BULLSHIT, it'll be the end of us all....

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