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Originally posted by Trancer-X i am trancer! i miss (ignore) the point of most things.

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You use "thought police" in such an interesting way - I'm pretty sure this whole argument started because you were the one saying only certain beliefs are ideologically acceptable for intelligent people to have. If that's not thought policing... well shit, I need a new dictionary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

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flame bait: n.

[common] A posting intended to trigger a flame war, or one that invites flames in reply. See also troll.

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/flame-bait.html


troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT.

2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.” Compare kook.

3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.

The use of ‘troll’ in any of these senses is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning “Do not feed the troll” as part of a followup to troll postings.

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html

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Originally posted by Trancer-X kook: n. [common] [Usenet; originally and more formally, net.kook] Term used to describe a regular poster who continually posts messages with no apparent grounding in reality. Different from a troll, which implies a sort of sly wink on the part of a poster who knows better, kooks really believe what they write, to the extent that they believe anything. The kook trademark is paranoia and grandiosity. Kooks will often build up elaborate imaginary support structures, fake corporations and the like, and continue to act as if those things are real even after their falsity has been documented in public. While they may appear harmless, and are usually filtered out by the other regular participants in a newsgroup of mailing list, they can still cause problems because the necessity for these measures is not immediately apparent to newcomers; there are several instances on record, for example, of journalists writing stories with quotes from kooks who caught them unaware. An entertaining web page chronicling the activities of many notable kooks can be found at http://www.crank.net/usenet.html.

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excellent post leb and very accurate from where im sitting!

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Originally posted by Trancer-X flame bait: n. [common] A posting intended to trigger a flame war, or one that invites flames in reply. See also troll. http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/flame-bait.html troll 1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.” Compare kook. 3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners. Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter. The use of ‘troll’ in any of these senses is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning “Do not feed the troll” as part of a followup to troll postings. http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/troll.html

i don't know man, when you find yourself describing yourself or others with internet jargon and Usenet definitions as a reaction to, conversely, "real world" complaints and criticisms of your behaviour...you kinda have to take a step back and check wtf is actually going on my life that i have to respond in this manner or respond at all really.

Not that I'm ever going to take either of you off ignore, but if you guys are going to infect every thread with your pro-status quo tripe, the least you could do is keep in relevant to the topic at hand. Your having to latch onto my nuts because you have no balls of your own is really sad.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i don't know man, when you find yourself describing yourself or others with internet jargon and Usenet definitions as a reaction to, conversely, "real world" complaints and criticisms of your behaviour...you kinda have to take a step back and check wtf is actually going on my life that i have to respond in this manner or respond at all really.

How do you expect me to react when you guys are the only ones that I ever get this from.

I post bulletins all of the time on MySpace and all I ever get over there is 'thank you' messages

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I post bulletins all of the time on MySpace and all I ever get over there is 'thank you' messages

i don't know if you meant it but i have to admit that was kind of funny.

In all honesty, I'd love to have dinner with these two contemporary chaps:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/69004

Throw Samantha Power in there as a moderator, and that would be dinner AND a show.

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Originally posted by Q5echo i have to admit that was kind of funny.

How so? Are you somehow trying to say that the five dolts who constantly troll this forum better represent humanity than the almost 15K people that I have as friends on MySpace?

And again, what does any of this have to do with the thread topic? You guys sure love to detract from anything even remotely of value on this board, don't you?