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| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
It's 1 Samuel ch 28. You should also recall that Saul and the witch of endor are the only ones to whom the spirit is revealed, moreover, Samuel is a book that was compiled from records and other stories found in the court records of King David and as such can only be considered a second hand account at best. Whether the author of the orginal story actually witnessed the event or is recalling a story he was told is not clear; subsequently, the accuracy of the story must be questioned. Additionally, visions as brought about at the oracles in Greece have been explained by gases escaping from the ground in those locations, similarly, this tale takes place at a location of the witches choosing... it is not unreasonable that she would have chosen a location that would also induce hallucinations, which could explain the visions if they actually occured. I suppose my point here is that whether or not the spirit of Samuel actually appeared to Saul is definately in doubt. I would argue that this is a story that is best viewed as a morality tale woven into a historical event. |
And in 2000 years what will the skeptics say? This psychic or witch was from a place once called Toronto, her visions were likely linked to crack or crystal meth as she live in the downtown core??
The thing is people who believe in this stuff believe in God or Satan usually belonging to a religious denomination, God fearing or Satan Worshiping. We can't see either of these beings, but are they ghosts? not necessarily...it's a belief...people, skeptics like to crush with theories that science proves that 2000 yrs ago blah blah, we still don't even know how long the earth's been around and that idea has changed a few times in my life and I'm only 24.
Science is not always definite.
There are of course always room for a hoax for explanation.
I don't know maybe you don't believe in God and it's not my business. Science has umpteen theories as to why a God dosen't exist. Still they haven't proved a higher being does not exist.
The best term for religion IMO is FAITH. It's based nothing but on emotions, idea's and hope to name a few.
We believe in "God" and "Ghosts". Science believes there are extra terrestrial beings, none of which I've ever seen so I guess they aren't real and the guys at nasa are smoking too many mushrooms again and watching close encounters of the 3rd similar to the scriptures in Samuel...I'm a skeptic of that...science has certainly failed before it fails daily, it's a dirty business...take the medicinal field for example.
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