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Originally posted by fayraree I'm just waiting for the day the government limits the top speed of every car to the speed limit. Then I'm moving.

Its been talked about for cars and as for trucks i beleive they passed a law for governers at 105 km/h a few months ago?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I agree 100%.....that is what a government is suppose to do.....give people the tools to make an informed decision....but yet still allow them to make their own decisions. This goes for most things...not just raising children.

This is exactly what i advocate. Im not against recycling, cutting down use of certain products, i actually hate smoking, etc...

But these laws and the idea of these laws disturb me because it affects my every day decisions as an adult. Prohibative laws effect our economy, livlihoods and lifestyles. I became a libertarian precisely because of the lies and propaganda that was spread during the "rave crackdowns". It ended up in the practical abolition of the type of events i used to enjoy. It really opened my eyes to the BS that was being served to us on a silver (highly taxed) platter. And things in this department are getting worse, not better.

You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for.

Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for. Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.

What?

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 You do nothing for the cause you clearly feel you are fighting for. Please move to the States; a place where all of your opinions live and destroy morality and allow everything to exist relative to the amount of money they generate.

I have submitted a motion to ban the icon.

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Originally posted by SkyHigh What?

huh?

Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)

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Toronto Marathon should be banned by Arthur Weinreb, October 20, 2004 A fatality occurred during the running of last weekend's Toronto Marathon when a 42-year-old Guelph Ontario man suffered a heart attack while nearing the end of the 21 kilometre half-marathon. The unnamed man was the second person to die in the event's 10 year history. The Toronto Marathon has to be banned. Although two deaths in 10 years may not sound like a lot, in round numbers it is more or less two more than the number of people in Toronto who have died from eating previously unfrozen sushi. And as well, we all know, when he's not yelling at hospital employees and officials, Ontario's Minister of Health, Georgie Smitherman, is proposing to ban the consumption of sushi unless it has been previously frozen. If banning things was only the result of an Ontario cabinet minister having too much time on his hands and having a hate on for raw fish that would be one thing. But banning less dangerous products or activities is the Canadian way. At least it's the Toronto way. Recently we have seen bans or proposed bans on smoking in bars, pesticides, taxicabs that are more than two years old, pit bulls and dogs that look like pit bulls. How can the Toronto Marathon continue to be run when the cause of two deaths are so obviously related to the event? Dr. Chris Woollam, the medical director of the marathon (okay, stop right there--the fact that the Toronto Marathon even needs a medical director is proof positive that the run has to be banned for health reasons) told the media that marathon runners over 40 should assess their health before running a marathon. Since when have citizens become responsible for their own health? Adults can't decide to smoke in a bar with other consenting adults or use a pesticide or now it appears, eat sushi that has not been previously frozen. Where did this radical idea that people are responsible for their own health ever come from? The doctor's statement is a shameful expression of individual responsibility that has absolutely no place in 21st century Toronto. It will only be a matter of time before laws are proposed to outlaw smoking in cars and then homes and then limiting the number of Big Macs that people can eat. Yet the radical suggestion is made that people be allowed to run, even though that activity can result in serious injury or death. Although death from marathon running is rare (although seemingly not as rare as dying from eating previously un-frozen or "improper" sushi) injuries and illness are not. The Toronto Marathon "medical tent" was staffed by 30 medical personnel to treat the various ills of the runners. The tent was packed to capacity this year as cold temperatures and strong winds led to all kinds of health problems. We simply cannot let this sort of activity to continue. We might as well just hand out cigarettes to people (except for the homeless--they are already receiving them) and tell them to go ahead and die. All the people who ran in the marathon and later died or required medical treatment were in seemingly good health--or else they never would have attempted the run. So, requiring people to make their own health determinations prior to running simply won't do. The marathon just has to go. People wouldn't risk death, illness or serious injury if they spent their Sundays the way God intended them to--watching football on TV. Of course the city of Toronto will never ban the marathon. The lefties on council get too much enjoyment out of the traffic chaos that the event causes to ever want to see it disappear. The many road closures, especially those that were unannounced and caused some to be stranded in their vehicles for hours, must have been especially pleasing to the bicycle-riding, car-hating set at Toronto City Hall. The runner who died while participating in the run simply died for the cause. Not a high price to pay to watch motorists fume. The only hope for banning the event lies with the province whose slogan should be "today sushi--tomorrow, the marathon".

just wanna put in my 2 cents about that smokes cover dealio.

so im buying my poison sticks today and its all neatly covered, god forbid if kids saw it or something. and then i see something on the right hand side. now i cant see that good (fuck you old age) but there it was, clear as a day DIRTY ANAL WHORES VOL.53, BUKKAKE FIENDS VOL.28 and DADDY'S LITTLE WHORE : FINALLY 18.

but thank god kids cant see them smokes !

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)

Jay, is your real name Arthur Weinreb

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Here is a funny article about big brother. It was written in 2004 and scarily predicts the new law against smoking in cars and homes (condos and renters are now permitted to ban smoking in their buildings including YOUR living space)

Correct me if I'm wrong or if the law has changed...

AFAIK, to implement 'no smoknig' in a condo, the condo corp would have to put something in the condo declaration or bylaws, which would have to be approved by the board and not contravene existing law.

since the board is made up of owners and represents owners...what's the problem?

you have suggested that if club/bar employees and patrons don't like smoking, they should work/patronize somewhere else. Isn't this the same thing? why not let the free market determine which buildings go "smoke free" and which ones don't? you can't have it both ways!

as for rental buildings...I honestly don't know how that works.

I'll repeat my philosophy: people should be able to do what they want SO LONG AS IT AFFECTS NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES.

so if you smoke, and your smoke infiltrates another unit...too bad for you...you need to figure out a way where your smoking isn't impacting your neighbours. why should the neighbour have to move or tolerate it?

smoking may be legal, but it's not an unlimited "right" (minors can't buy, you can't smoke *everywhere*, etc). just as driving is legal, but is not an unlimited right (age, speed limit, no impaired driving, etc). just as playing music is legal, but not an unlimited right (noise bylaws)