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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I wouldn't expect you to, if you don't DJ.


why would i be hanging around in here if i didnt DJ?


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why would i be hanging around in here if i didnt DJ?



Not sure...but don't you play completely different music than me?


And its not perfect in key mixing vs. clashing on every mix, what I'm basically saying it, mixing via feeling and the odd key clash is not the end of the world, and in most cases, does not make you any worse a DJ.


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nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oh, i know nothing about music theory. just that whenever i hear music that's out of key (with either itself or another piece of music) it makes me cringe.

i certainly don't think that exceptions to rules or specific forms of music/styles mean its ok just to ignore key clashes in DJing.



i bet if you heard one of these deejays clovis mentioned play and they did a 'clashing mix' you wouldn't even notice

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Not sure...but don't you play completely different music than me?


yeah, probably! nobody plays uplifting trance anymore

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
And its not perfect in key mixing vs. clashing on every mix, what I'm basically saying it, mixing via feeling and the odd key clash is not the end of the world, and in most cases, does not make you any worse a DJ.


oh no, of course not and i wasnt meaning to imply otherwise. just that never paying attention to keys isn't nearly as good as being able to do it 'via feeling' as you say. and that the artists you mentioned looking up to no doubt have an appreciation for when they can break/bend the rules, but don't come out with their awesome mixes by accident (ie i bet they have an instinctive skill for picking compatible tunes/know how to mix clashing melodies effectively).

in my (albeit terribly limited) experience, some styles of EDM just sound awful with prolonged, out of key mixes.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by nefardec
i bet if you heard one of these deejays clovis mentioned play and they did a 'clashing mix' you wouldn't even notice


well, that's all part of the skill of being awesome then isn't it? and i bet you dont know shit about me so unless you have something interesting or beneficial to add how bout you fuck off?


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nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, that's all part of the skill of being awesome then isn't it? and i bet you dont know shit about me so unless you have something interesting or beneficial to add how bout you fuck off?


easy there boss... i wouldn't hear it either... don't take me the wrong way, that was not meant as an insult, more a compliment to the deejays

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by nefardec
easy there boss... i wouldn't hear it either... don't take me the wrong way, that was not meant as an insult, more a compliment to the deejays


oops, my bad. i apologise!


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RJT
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Reading this thread makes me feel like this:

Fucks sake, gentlemen.


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Zoso
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quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Reading this thread makes me feel like this:

Fucks sake, gentlemen.


Well, it did derail, but I feel the first page gave me the answers I was looking for.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by Az
dubfire


Can't argue with that...

Dude, name calling aside, I don't actually even use the tool myself so not really sure why I get stressed about it.

Nem takes a chill pill

Cheers


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Robert Eugene
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Norfolk, Virginia

When I first started getting into the dance music scene what I loved most was the fact that everyone loved only one thing: THE MUSIC.

I switched from CDJ-1000s to Ableton to try something that no one was doing and to be different..but along the way all I have run into are people saying I'm "not a real DJ" or I'm "cheating".

With the way the scene is changing and with new technologies available it seems a little silly to me to stay stuck in the same old setup, year in year out. Since switching to Ableton I have been able to do a lot of things that I could never do on tables and when someone comes up to me at the end of the night jumping around asking "how the hell did you do that?!?!" it makes it all worthwhile.

Let's keep in mind that the only that REALLY matters is how many people are moving on the dance floor and here's some food for thought: Do you think anyone has left a show saying "I really wished he used turntables tonight instead of a computer?"

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nchs09
Traceaddict in training



Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Eugene

Do you think anyone has left a show saying "I really wished he used turntables tonight instead of a computer?"
yes.


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