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Originally posted by nefardec IMO, prog is when artists begin to dilute the concept of the thing and move more towards a traditional 'song'.

Progressive in the true sense of the term only dilutes techno by borrowing from it- progressive is the style that aims to create through synthesis of a basic conception of house music and absolutely anything and everything else. There is no purity in progressive because pure, undiluted sound is the antithesis of what progressive should be about. Unfortunately, everyone, including the people who now make it, seem to have forgotten what progressive once meant.

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> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
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right, that is the 'glass is half full' way to see it

i say dilute because i have an obvious bias haha.



i like the 'concept' of progressive that you put forth here, and a good deal of many tunes that came about with that state of mind, but just like with 'minimal', when a technique or an approach becomes stratified and turned into a style or genre, that's when it begins to turn to shit.

jesus christ its not that complicated. Just make beats I'll tell you if its amazing music or not

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Originally posted by Guest jesus christ its not that complicated. Just make beats I'll tell you if its amazing music or not

You're the one who started this retarded thread.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis You're the one who started this retarded thread.

yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette

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Originally posted by Guest yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette

I'll bet that was an amazing conversation

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by nefardec right, that is the 'glass is half full' way to see it i say dilute because i have an obvious bias haha.

Well it's only in the last few years that prog has really taken much from techno, and that's because the prog DJs and producers are so desperate to remain cool they will sell their soul rather than continuing with what the style once stood for. I'm sure someone might argue that borrowing from techno is still within the progressive manifesto, but copying the biggest, most trendy electronic genre isn't what prog should be about.

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i like the 'concept' of progressive that you put forth here, and a good deal of many tunes that came about with that state of mind, but just like with 'minimal', when a technique or an approach becomes stratified and turned into a style or genre, that's when it begins to turn to shit.

I think that's fair to say. For the first five years or so, nobody had a fucking clue what "progressive house" really meant. Leftfield once stated in an interview that they could release a rock song and it would get called progressive house- no matter which direction they went, people just called it "progressive house". It didn't represent a set of musical characteristics, but an ethos. Then, as you say, it become stratified and there became a set of sounds people called "progressive".

I highlighted your statement because I didn't think it was fair to take a small chunk of progressive's history and say "progressive is [whatever]" based on that chunk, which you would never do to techno.

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> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

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Originally posted by Guest yea i didnt write a poem about prog either. I simply argued with Doombot on the way to the city for 15 minutes about Marionette

15 minutes?

could you recap on that conversation?

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

Can we describe the Gas sound as techno ?

"Gas sound"?

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Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs 15 minutes? could you recap on that conversation?

You can recap it yourself by copying and pasting the second line of the opening post a few dozen times. You'll have to use your imagination because I doubt they spoke in free indirect discourse, but you get the idea.

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Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/