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Originally posted by iammesol When are you guys going to come out of your simple minded hole? Ffs... why play the victim card when you can just back your thoughts up with factual information? lol As for the state of things, all I can say is w00t. Amazed at how so many people woke up this year, including myself

Once again, why are we simple minded just because we have differing beliefs from you? You guys really are immature if you can't even discuss things without the name calling. Even though I think your beliefs are really screwed up, I'm not going to call you simple minded. Sam, I like you, but grow up a little.

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Originally posted by Caution_BiPolar As far as Scott and whoever else challenging the bit I wrote about how businesses will be effected, welcome to the age old difference in point of view between people who support Republican and people who support Democrat. If you were going to understand and appreciate what I had to say on the matter, you likely wouldn't be supporting Obama. And vice versa. So be it.

Are you implying that all Republicans support supply-side economics? That's essentially what you have said. If so, your point of view is wrong. George H.W. Bush called supply side economics "voodoo economics" and he's arguably smarter than his son. You may choose to continue having this point of view though because after all, this is America.

In business, there can be many points of view and strategies on how to tackle an issue, but among these points of view, there is something called evidence and consistent behaviour which reveal which points of view are better. This had nothing to do with Republican or Democrat but you had to bring it up. All I have said is I am skeptical about the benefits of supply side economics because there is poor evidence that shows it works. I'm sorry you felt that attacking such economic policies is an attack on your candidate on even an attack on your party. It's not.

It's not your beliefs I'm amazed at. It's the logical reasoning which leads to them. I really wish you'd start understanding my posts and see that.

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 I don't want to sink to your level and be a name caller,

right... take the high road, name calling is imature and... oh wait

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Originally posted by PVDfan07 You are a jackass.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Like I said, there really isn't any getting around the name calling with you. You really are a jackass.

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Originally posted by Caution_BiPolar I didn't say they had no concern for politics, did I? I stated that it was my opinion that they seem less focused than Republicans. One reason I try to stay out of political arguments is the inevitable happening of the opposing opinion trying to put words in my mouth, or acting as if they can't clearly comprehend a statement or concept. As previously stated, I realize that no words, or even hard proof I can provide is going to change anyone's minds. If you guys were going to respect, consider, or agree on anything I had to say, you wouldn't vote democrat. Vice versa goes for me, but I at least try the respect and consideration part, even if I don't agree. I've yet to throw sarcasm, or hint to anyone's lack of intelligence toward politics. The fact that you guys are even subtly indicating that myself, or anyone else is an idiot because of what we believe in, or who we vote for shows YOUR ignorance. ... which I could just say that means ignorant people vote democrat, but then I'd look like the rest of you in this debate

My biggest issue with your opinions is that, to me, your opinions are based more on personal experience than the facts. If you chose to engage in an intellectual debate, you bring facts. I think it will help me understand your point more if you show me you've done your homework before making some galvanizing blanket statements which I've kindly highlighted. I also think it's condescending to repeatedly assume that people who don't share your view will still don't get it in the face of hard proof. I can guarantee you, if you bring hard proof, I will get it.

Scott found it.

I'm sorry, I've yet to see any proof that your argument is valid.

Get out a calculator, compare, do the math. Tell me what you find.

Apparently I'm not the only one concerned with his stance on economy, I see Wall Street is particularly sorry compared to yesterday.

Can we finally reject the hatefully intolerant, obsolete views of the political right; the policies that vilify the disadvantaged and enrich the guilty; the reckless ignorance to repeat the mistakes of the past eight years?

Hell yes we can!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowDxPcYQUE

Wish that track wasn't so deadmau5ish, but I'm definitely guilty of buying it when it came out. Also, you can download Matt Flores - Now Is The Time for free for a limited time. It's even better than the HMU track.

I find all these "speech" tracks so corny...