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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU Sean5, FYI: The "Sukhoi treatment" is Clovis' way of dodging a question and/or argument that he doesn't think he can answer/win. It's used often on TA- even by 'intelligent people like him', who have read more books than you have and have seen more of the world than you have.

And FYI I've already won the argument and the proof is in the white house right now. Cry me a river.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced If people are happy because a new age thinker with new ideas is in the white house then great...be happy and enjoy this new leadership.

lol. obama is definitely not a new age thinker, neither is his administration.


we're just gonna get fucked in the other hole now

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced If people are happy because a black guy is president....well....that is a pathetic reason to be happy.

Racist much?

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Originally posted by verndogs Try telling that to some of the older black folk here...you know the ones who had to live through "separate but equal" water fountains, the civil rights movement etc.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by Clovis Because you've already made up your mind and you're too ignorant to understand anything I would answer with anyway. We've been there before, I'm not wasting my time.

It'd seem as though we've both made up our minds, actually.
I'm not, however, "too ignorant to understand" other people's arguments.
In my defense to your accusations: I'm well educated, I've read plenty of books, and I'm relatively confident that I've seen more of the world than you have - including much of the Middle East (that's the part of the world where you see all of the horrible things happening on CNN- and never the positive things)

The majority of voters voted for "hope" and "change" last year, and not for a strong presidential candidate.

I'll be the first to admit that I hope I'm proven wrong, however.

Seems as though there will be some obstacles to overcome early on:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01...sion/index.html

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Originally posted by Clovis And FYI I've already won the argument and the proof is in the white house right now. Cry me a river.

Not really. You just happen to agree with the majority of the voters.

"CHANGE"


"HOPE"


HYPE, HYPE, HYPE

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Originally posted by idoru Racist much?

That's not really a racist viewpoint, and he's actually right. Being happy that Obama is president simply for the fact that he's black is fucking retarded and everything against the principles guys like MLK wanted to instill in all of us. The only thing that should matter is whether or not he's the best man for the job. So I get annoyed when every time Obama is mentioned, his race is mentioned as well.

It's good that there's a general feeling of 'hope' and optimism amongst the masses, but at the same time if you don't recognize the element of gimmickry involved then you need to wake up. I voted Obama btw, and I'm not a Democrat, so I'm not just having a go for no reason here. The groupthink going on right not is at obscenely high levels and I just had to comment on it.

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Originally posted by Steve Evets That's not really a racist viewpoint, and he's actually right. Being happy that Obama is president simply for the fact that he's black is fucking retarded and everything against the principles guys like MLK wanted to instill in all of us. The only thing that should matter is whether or not he's the best man for the job. So I get annoyed when every time Obama is mentioned, his race is mentioned as well. It's good that there's a general feeling of 'hope' and optimism amongst the masses, but at the same time if you don't recognize the element of gimmickry involved then you need to wake up. I voted Obama btw, and I'm not a Democrat, so I'm not just having a go for no reason here. The groupthink going on right not is at obscenely high levels and I just had to comment on it.

Thing is, I haven't seen a single person who is happy "simply" because he's black; that's merely a part of the equation.

it is a one sided government.

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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU Not really. You just happen to agree with the majority of the voters. "CHANGE" "HOPE" HYPE, HYPE, HYPE

But not for the same reasons as the majority.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

summah you guys listen to far too much rush limbaugh

...or jay z