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Originally posted by Magnetonium Iran has enough energy in the form of fossil fuels to last it many years. This nuclear power plant has cost them a fortune and its not nearly done yet.

Wrong. Iran's economy is 70-80% oil export based. Do you honestly think they want to consume their own oil supply? And export what? A bunch of Persian rugs? No, they don't have enough fossil fuel energy, to both domestically consume, AND export. They'd be bone dry in no time. Iran definitely needs nuclear energy and they should have it.

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Originally posted by Krypton Wrong. Iran's economy is 70-80% oil export based. Do you honestly think they want to consume their own oil supply? And export what? A bunch of Persian rugs? No, they don't have enough fossil fuel energy, to both domestically consume, AND export. They'd be bone dry in no time. Iran definitely needs nuclear energy and they should have it.

Iran is not suited for nuclear power plants. They are building ONE nuclear plant, let me repeat that - ONE - which will not generate enough energy for its population if they want to get off oil. Also, nuclear power plants are very expensive to build, and arent cheap to operate and maintain. They have already been falling behind on several occasions in payments to the Russian company building it! Seismic activity is a big threat with most of Iran is under some level of earthquake threat - they are putting at risk people and environment.

For a country that has yet to reach its full oil potential, going to nuclear power is very odd. Strangely enough, a normal country in this situation would go on a campaign portraying the evils of CO2 emissions and risk of shortage of fossil fuels, but for Iran its none of that. They magically just decided that nuclear power will be their ultimate solution. And considering the evils of their government/leadership, its is naive to believe that this is being done for good intentions, nor that it is their true or final intention.

Even an idiot knows that a country which has some of the world's abundant oil AND gas (not just oil) supplies - ranked in top 5 - and wants nuclear technology for fuel is not doing it because it is worried about running out of resources. It has bigger problems than that to deal with.

It doesnt even have appropriate infrastructure to provide energy for all of its population! Iran spends billions on importing GASOLINE, yes thats right, GASOLINE (refined from oil) because their own infrastructure is so bad. Its embarassing. Though Iran has announced it is going to decrease the import of gasoline, but its very embarassing.

And instead they prioritize on a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT? Give me a break. This is a POLITICAL move, a precedent for NUCLEAR POWER. Iran is feeling bold - carte blanche was granted to them when the regime of Saddam Hussein (their arch enemy) was pulled down by Americans.

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Frankly, who cares?

If they get them, then so what? They wont use them ever. They would be insane to do that, because the two countries they threaten with them are both nuclear armed and would have no qualms wiping them off the face of the earth.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Frankly, who cares? If they get them, then so what? They wont use them ever. They would be insane to do that, because the two countries they threaten with them are both nuclear armed and would have no qualms wiping them off the face of the earth.

are you familiar with the 12th Imam?

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Originally posted by Q5echo are you familiar with the 12th Imam?

Tell me the worst that could happen?

What they nuke some sort of interest in our part of the middle east? We wipe them off the planet.

They attack Israel? Israel wipes them off the planet.

Iran is run by men, and smart men or men with power want to stay alive. They wont jeopardize a good thing. They are not stupid. Hiding behind Islam is just to appease the stupid masses that are gullible enough to believe religious tripe.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Iran is not suited for nuclear power plants. They are building ONE nuclear plant, let me repeat that - ONE - which will not generate enough energy for its population if they want to get off oil. Also, nuclear power plants are very expensive to build, and arent cheap to operate and maintain. They have already been falling behind on several occasions in payments to the Russian company building it! Seismic activity is a big threat with most of Iran is under some level of earthquake threat - they are putting at risk people and environment.

Iran is not suited for nuclear power plants? Says who? You? Iran apparently has decided they are suitable for nuclear power. No shit, only 1 nuclear power plant can't power the whole country. That isn't a reason not to build them!

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For a country that has yet to reach its full oil potential, going to nuclear power is very odd. Strangely enough, a normal country in this situation would go on a campaign portraying the evils of CO2 emissions and risk of shortage of fossil fuels, but for Iran its none of that. They magically just decided that nuclear power will be their ultimate solution. And considering the evils of their government/leadership, its is naive to believe that this is being done for good intentions, nor that it is their true or final intention.

How is it odd? What is odd about limiting domestic use of the primary resource for export when there is a finite amount, of which the economy relies overwhelmingly on?

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Even an idiot knows that a country which has some of the world's abundant oil AND gas (not just oil) supplies - ranked in top 5 - and wants nuclear technology for fuel is not doing it because it is worried about running out of resources. It has bigger problems than that to deal with.

Peak oil. SURPRISE!

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It doesnt even have appropriate infrastructure to provide energy for all of its population! Iran spends billions on importing GASOLINE, yes thats right, GASOLINE (refined from oil) because their own infrastructure is so bad. Its embarassing. Though Iran has announced it is going to decrease the import of gasoline, but its very embarassing.

How is this a justification for them not to build a power plant? Frankly, it's not.

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And instead they prioritize on a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT? Give me a break. This is a POLITICAL move, a precedent for NUCLEAR POWER. Iran is feeling bold - carte blanche was granted to them when the regime of Saddam Hussein (their arch enemy) was pulled down by Americans.

Riiiight. Every country except Iran is allowed to build a nuclear power plant. Reason? According to Mag, Iran is too shitty for a nuclear power plant. Am I right?

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It might come as a shocker to you, and its not my style, but I'm fed up with Iran. I am now decided - I strongly oppose Iranian plans for nuclear power plants. Until they start declining their fossil fuel supplies - then we'll be talking. I'll go as far as supporting possible Israeli attack to wipe out the nuclear plant.

Yes, I think I'm becoming more of a conservative lately with all this radical Islamic threat I have to side with the lesser of the two evils. Watching this Hezbollah and Hamas b-s is enough for me. I'm telling you - if Iran/Syria pulls the plug to these organizations, peace and prosperity will then be within a walking distance. Then Hamas can become a political organization with a human face. Enough of them brainwashing their children into Jihad. An arm of this lovely Iran.

I've realized that the 21st century will be a conflict between radical Islam and us. When things in Iran normalize, perhaps somewhat like Turkey or Egypt, I wont see it as a problem for them to build the dam nuclear plant.

Yes, it may appear that I'm siding with the American imperialism here. Not quite. But I've met enough Ahmadinejad lovers and Jihad sympathizers here in Canada recently to realize the seriousness of the situation. The Islamic pressure on our way of life, on our beliefs and freedom of speech, and their numbers are growing exponentially while we complain about having 1 friggin child.

I will not respect these fundamentalists until they start respecting us, the common Western people. I see Iran as a huge threat, in the long run. Iran is a sleeping giant, capable of stirring some serious shit in the future.

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Originally posted by ******** There isn't even mention of needing to pay to run in Iran. That is a better standard.. I'd rather be quized on morals and my legal beleifs than buying a chance for a seat. Iran scores higher than canada imo.

even if these are racist, homophobic, and misoginistic morals in which you don't have any choice but to adhere to?

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Plus with Iran funding lebanon and gaza.. why would they want to kill all their arab and lebanese friends

Iran is not above the game of sticks and carrots. they aim to provoke Israel, and are well aware that they are no match for Israel's might in its proxy wars. A confrontation that causes an improportional response by Israel is a win for them, and all those who died will be sent to heaven under the very moral code you were willing to trade the current canadian system for.

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi even if these are racist, homophobic, and misoginistic morals in which you don't have any choice but to adhere to?

You pussy I would fuck the racist around hard. I have that choice.

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi Iran is not above the game of sticks and carrots. they aim to provoke Israel, and are well aware that they are no match for Israel's might in its proxy wars. A confrontation that causes an improportional response by Israel is a win for them, and all those who died will be sent to heaven under the very moral code you were willing to trade the current canadian system for.

Fucktard Iran will fuck Israel twice doggy style if Isareil had no US hand to save its hole in ass part.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium It might come as a shocker to you, and its not my style, but I'm fed up with Iran. I am now decided - I strongly oppose Iranian plans for nuclear power plants. Until they start declining their fossil fuel supplies - then we'll be talking. I'll go as far as supporting possible Israeli attack to wipe out the nuclear plant.

What will the Israeli strike achieve exactly? if anything it would make the Iranians wanting to have nukes even more to prevent them from future attacks from U.S and Israel.

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Yes, I think I'm becoming more of a conservative lately with all this radical Islamic threat I have to side with the lesser of the two evils.

Which threats are you talking about?

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Watching this Hezbollah and Hamas b-s is enough for me. I'm telling you - if Iran/Syria pulls the plug to these organizations, peace and prosperity will then be within a walking distance. Then Hamas can become a political organization with a human face. Enough of them brainwashing their children into Jihad. An arm of this lovely Iran.

hehe it feels a bit strange hearing things like this from you I got to admit.

If Israel starts treating the Palestinian people like humans and not like a bunch of dogs,then you might perhaps begin to see some progress towards peace, but untill that you will continue to see groups like Hamas and Hezbullah doing what they do to gain support from the people and more influence in the region.

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I've realized that the 21st century will be a conflict between radical Islam and us. When things in Iran normalize, perhaps somewhat like Turkey or Egypt, I wont see it as a problem for them to build the dam nuclear plant.

What makes you think things in Iran arent "normal"? and why do they have to become like Turkey and Egypt AKA the puppets of the Americans? cant we accept them for who they are and dont push them to the corner all the time?

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Yes, it may appear that I'm siding with the American imperialism here. Not quite. But I've met enough Ahmadinejad lovers and Jihad sympathizers here in Canada recently to realize the seriousness of the situation. The Islamic pressure on our way of life, on our beliefs and freedom of speech, and their numbers are growing exponentially while we complain about having 1 friggin child.

Oh come one now, I think you are being a bit too paranoid here. I live in the same country as you and see the same people around me and I havent come across what you just describe and believe you me Iam the more anti-religious person you ll ever meet.

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I will not respect these fundamentalists until they start respecting us, the common Western people. I see Iran as a huge threat, in the long run. Iran is a sleeping giant, capable of stirring some serious shit in the future.

Fundamentalism exist everwhere and you know that but as you know yourself the west loooooooooooves to pick on Islam out of the rest.

We ourselves are making a beast out of Iran for nothing really. Iran isnt the one you should worry about. I would be more worried about the North Korea situation right now. Shit could hit the fan over there badly.

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Originally posted by Kinezi Fucktard Iran will fuck Israel twice doggy style if Isareil had no US hand to save its hole in ass part.

That I have to agree with. Hopefuly this this new administration will cut off alot of those funds that goes to Israel. ( I highly highly doubt that however)

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