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Originally posted by Omega_Blue i don't doubt your relationships with others being that i'm not you, or one of your close guy friends, but i'm sure the thought has passed by their heads on more than one occasion. whether they act upon it or mention it is a whole other ball of wax.

For sure, I don't disagree with that. I'm sure most, if not all, of my guy friends thought about it plenty of times in the beginning of our friendship. And yeah you don't know my friends...nothing would stop them from telling me that kind of shit, lol.

I'm not an idiot. I recognize that having a vagina means I've already won. Lol.

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not an idiot. I recognize that having a vagina means I've already won. Lol.

um...yes? of course jenny, and to prove your point...well, let's just say that I picture you in many, many, many other ways that would sound obscene if I say them out loud...

officer!!

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not an idiot. I recognize that having a vagina means I've already won. Lol.

won at what? the race to the kitchen?? harhar kidding

Lol no...at being able to get a man to think of me sexually. I just think of all my stupid friends who go out of their way to attract males, and how special they think they are when a guy is after them. It's just like, "Bitch, you have a vagina...you've already won! Of course he wants to fuck you." Fuck.

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Originally posted by squirrelly Two, men-women friendships ARE fundamentally different. A man-woman friendship can be close, but it is different than a woman-woman or a man-man. One of my best friends is a guy (yes - we have had feelings for each other, just never at the same time) and my friendship with him is significantly different than my friendship with a female friend. Other friendships with male friends are also different. And (eventually) you always find out who has feelings for who.... somewhere down the line. In fact, a woman-woman friendship is even more fundamentally different than a man-man friendship.

I know Jenny has given a semi-serious answer and we're now into the realm of vagina jokes, but the more serious reply to this is that it's saying as much about how you view the other sex as it is about how the two sexes interact:

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Originally posted by jennypie If you view the opposite sex as a sexual partner first and foremost, you're most likely going to approach relationships with them in a corresponding manner.

I don't want to imply anything because I don't know you guys like you know each other, being a COR outsider, but are you a particularly girly girl? Do guys hold little interest to you outside of attraction because you just aren't into "guy stuff"? Or do you have the more cynical view that guys and girls just inherently don't get on much without attract playing a role?

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Originally posted by Arbiter Calling it impossible is a definite overstatement, but I can see why some people might think it a useful one. The world is so full of oblivious people; everyone wants to think they are the exception to the general rule. Most aren't--that's why it's the general rule. But try telling them that and see how far it gets you (or don't, if you value your time.)

Well that's the underlying question of this thread: is it a rule, or is just a tendency? The opinion seems split in this thread, and you have to ask if anyone has figured out the human mind or if they've just observed a lot of evidence. Ancedotes don't prove anything.

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Originally posted by Domesticated It depends. If you're one of those guys who is happy being friends with ugly chicks, then yes, it is certainly possible. However, if you're like me and (sub)consciously shy away from friendships with ugly girls, you are pretty much always going to have a desire to shag your friends, because they are good looking and you will always be attracted to them in some way.

Well there's the weird thing. This girl is considered by most to be pretty attractive, but personally she doesn't do anything for me. So this throws up some possibilities. Am I like you, and even though I'm not attracted to her I still know she's seen as attractive, so I earn status by being seen with her? Or is it some sort of inverse, where she finds me attractive but I'm seen as being beneath her standards and so social pressure precludes her from making any moves?

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i truly enjoy the company of men more than women and i'm definitely understanding jenny's point of view. i'm a tomboy myself and will crack dirty jokes and stuff and talk about cars and i'm probably viewed as "one of the guys" with my guy friends, but i still think they would totally fuck me if they thought they had a chance and it kinda sucks but whatever. i mean as long as they don't cross the line like i said before. and even though i'm aware that they'd fuck me, i'm confident enough in my personality and what i have to offer as a friend to know that it's not ALL about them wanting to fuck me. i believe they appreciate me as a person and find me funny/cool to be friends with, etc...

and as a matter of respect, i usually lose my day-to-day contact with my male friends when i'm involved with someone. i wouldn't appreciate my boyfriend constantly talking/emailing/chatting with girls who want to fuck him on a daily basis.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't want to imply anything because I don't know you guys like you know each other, being a COR outsider, but are you a particularly girly girl? Do guys hold little interest to you outside of attraction because you just aren't into "guy stuff"? Or do you have the more cynical view that guys and girls just inherently don't get on much without attract playing a role?

You bring about a very good point, I think the whole 'nature vs nurture' discussion could be linked to this. If you were raised by mostly women (which was the case with me) you develop a...well, a special tact for knowing how to talk to and treat a woman. On the other hand, a man can learn how to develop relantioships with the opposite sex in a way in which it's outside of sexual attraction; naturally any man (heterosexual) will find an attractive woman sexy, and to some extent there will be 'some' sexual tension. I don't think this 'sexual tension' is wrong, as it's intended by nature, to feel these things for the opposite sex...makes sense?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't want to imply anything because I don't know you guys like you know each other, being a COR outsider, but are you a particularly girly girl?

Not at all a girly girl.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Do guys hold little interest to you outside of attraction because you just aren't into "guy stuff"?

Not sure where you got I wasn't interested in males as friends. All of my closest friends are males. I'm not particularly into guy stuff either. I think it's just the way I think and my attitude that makes me get along with dudes better.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Or do you have the more cynical view that guys and girls just inherently don't get on much without attract playing a role?

Not at all. I think people can get along in whatever manner they want, if they'd just stop being fucking retards about it. And I'm pretty sure I've been a strong advocate this whole thread for functional, platonic male/female relationships.

Wait...I just realized that was directed at squirrelly (I think?). Oops.

what the fuck i'm trying to be a part of this thread and everyone is ignoring me.

fuck all of you.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

Just keep talking, it makes me want to fuck you.



edit: I'm not ignoring you...I just can't keep up with all the posts, lol. I tend to agree with most of what you say, if that means anything. Just imagine me sitting here nodding in agreement.


edit: Nodding in agreement and saying "You know it, girl." And then snapping my fingers like a black chick.

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Originally posted by jennypie Just keep talking, it makes me want to fuck you. edit: I'm not ignoring you...I just can't keep up with all the posts, lol. I tend to agree with most of what you say, if that means anything. Just imagine me sitting here nodding in agreement. edit: Nodding in agreement and saying "You know it, girl." And then snapping my fingers like a black chick.

ok good that makes me feel better.

/leaves

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone