like almost every other country?

how many junior championships or Olympic championships have they won when all of the best players are available for ALL COUNTRIES?

yeah.

yeah yeah.

yeah yeah yeah.

thats the way uh huh uh huh i liiiike it

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Although I see your point Jay, you have to hand it to the Russian national team, though. Look at where they were 5-10 years ago, and look at them now. I for one am really happy they're starting to get their shit together, again.

what have they won of note when everyone is available?
they are better yes, but not the best.

i am a full supporter of other teams winning, but the rest of the world has improved more than russia. The swiss will be good soon, the nazis too.

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Keep in mind that the Russians are way better than any of those, and only now are they starting to realise that hockey is actually a team sport. When it comes to skills, the Swiss have improved very much over the past few years, same with Latvia and some others. But it's not like they could ever be compared to the Russians. Russia's biggest problem has always been that either their players don't want to represent, or they play for themselves instead of their team. Over the past few years, these two problems have almost disappeared completely. The Result? Two championships in a row.

Bykov & Bure has done a hell of a job, could you have imagined ten years ago that every Russian WANTS to play for their team? Did you watch the world championship final a week ago? I never thought I'd say this, but it was heart-warming to see Kovalchuk skate his heart out for 35 minutes!

true story dubam. not sure exactly what's going on in russia but the hockey landscape for their players is a bit better

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if russians are so awesome, why is it that the nhl teams that have the most never win a cup.

this is not an opinion, this is an actual statistic.

I would much rather have a swede on my team that is a team player, than a ruskie diva that wants to do everything on his own and by the time april rolls around, he wants nothing more than to go home.

I hope russia regains its old form though, the more high caliber teams that there are, the better it is for the game in general.

Of course russia is better than the swiss and the germans, but if you want to talk about improvement over the last 5 to 10 years, these 2 nations have improved more than the cccp.

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Originally posted by chimera66 true story dubam. not sure exactly what's going on in russia but the hockey landscape for their players is a bit better

the khl could be a factor in this.

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Originally posted by elFreak the khl could be a factor in this.

oh most definitely. why give away their talent when they can keep it develop it and monetize the business of hockey in the region. we will see how that shakes out in the next couple years...still don't understand why jagr is there but they have a superstar player for sure with him.

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jagr is there because he is finished. He is too old to be dominant like in the past, just look at sergei federov.

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Don't know where I said 'awesome' in any way. My views are nothing but

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Originally posted by elFreak I hope russia regains its old form though, the more high caliber teams that there are, the better it is for the game in general.

this.



To be honest, I still dislike them.. in general.

I don't want to compare KHL to NHL in any way. I hope KHL is going to be as big and awesome as it can get, but NHL will always be my number one.

if the russians we have on our team (other than markov) showed half as much heart as they do in international play, they would not be golfing right now

i am secretly hoping that they move away from drafting european players in the future.

the khl will never be huge until it can market the games in a language that most of the world can understand

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Originally posted by elFreak if the russians we have on our team (other than markov) showed half as much heart as they do in international play, they would not be golfing right now i am secretly hoping that they move away from drafting LESS european players in the future. the khl will never be huge until it can market the games in a language that most of the world can understand

I agree with you, besides the edit.