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Originally posted by nefardec no it's not that i don't understand it (i dont completely), it's that i can't come up with the right collection of words to communicate the idea. what i was claiming basically is that time is a perceptual phenomenon that depends purely on the topology of the universe. This is similar as I said to the way that we perceive a series of still photos to be a moving picture, etc. i believe the topology is a perception too. so i guess you could also say that i believe that space is a phenomenon caused by time. it doesn't really matter what order it's in, i think the two are the same sort of thing, essentially.

While I like your thinking I'm not sure I could ever accept it. What you're saying requires that matter itself is a perception... that there is, in fact, no physical existence; because if anything exists in a physical form then there must be distance between points in that physical form and likely motion, therefore, there must be time.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard While I like your thinking I'm not sure I could ever accept it. What you're saying requires that matter itself is a perception... that there is, in fact, no physical existence; because if anything exists in a physical form then there must be distance between points in that physical form and likely motion, therefore, there must be time.

nah, the only thing that exists is "now"
as mentioned before, we only experience time because of a continuous spectrum of variating nows.
nothing ever happened in the "past" and nothing can happen in the future. the only time something can happen is "now"

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