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Infinitor
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Hamburg, Germany

Hier noch ein Scan! Absolut identisch und ich schließe Fotoshop manipulation aus!
Mittlerweile werden Leute aus dem Planetloveforum rausgeschmissen, wenn sie unbequeme Fragen über das Thema stellen! Sobald die Timetable im PL Forum geposted wird, wird sie von den Admins sofort gelöscht. Wie peinlich ist das bitte jetzt für den Veranstalter.
Auch wenn ich mit ATB´s sound nicht viel anfangen kann, finde ich es schon sehr heftig, was da abgelaufen ist. So etwas muss nicht sein.

Habe auch das hier gefunden!
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My timetable cost me £5. Although everyone I met inside said they were charged £7 for theirs.

They did advertise PVD as the worlds number 1 DJ, a position he DOES NOT hold for 2 years now.

Also, the timetable was posted on PL forum again a minute ago & was removed just as quick. What a suprise.
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Cosmique
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Berlin

weiter gehts ....

Planet Love Respond to ATB's 2nd statement:

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as I see in some forums the organizers now try to tell the people that I refused the gig. Thats very funny and I..m very happy to have two witnesses that the organizers told me that I..m not allowed to play in front of Paul van Dyk.

Yes, he was asked to let Judge Jules play between him and PVD and was asked to play one hour early this is true

They tried to give me a settime from 8:30 till 10 because they supposedly had trouble with some late DJ..s! But I was not able to play at this time because I just arrived in the hotel!

Nonsense! He was asked to play his full 2 hour set from 8.45 to 10.45 (approx 9 to 11) to help us out. He was in his hotel from 3.30pm that afternoon of which we have proof, documented. Around 7pm when the problems arose, he was politely asked by artiste liaison at the hotel to play one hour early to which he point blankly refused stating it was 10pm to 12am or not at all. He then refused to leave the hotel unless we gave him the 10pm to 12am set. We had therefore no choice but try and put replacements in his place as he refused to move his time or leave the hotel. I personally contacted Judge Jules manager at 7.10pm and explained the situation, which he and the phone records will confirm, and he said Jules would be very happy to help us out.

As we asked at 9:30 for a transportation to the Venue a guy from the organization told us, we don..t have to go to the venue because my show is cancelled. The reason: I did not took the playtime 8:30 - 10! This was a shock!

Following us not backing down on the time change they then decided to get our people to bring them to the venue anyway. They arrived at the venue at 8.30pm, not 9.30pm as he states, (Perhaps this is a genuine error on his part as his watch was maybe still on German time, 1 hour ahead) but still well in time to perform at 8:45 or 9pm for a full 2 hours but instead of helping us he proceeded to hurl abuse and intimidate Judith..)


Anyway, we decided to go to the venue and talk with the organizers personally.


I TOLD THE ORGANIZERS, THAT EVEN IF THERE HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE SET TIMES I..M OPEN TO PLAY A SHORTER SET FROM 11-12! THATS ONE HOUR LESS! BUT THEY TOLD ME, THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GIVE ME THIS SET TIME; BECAUSE OF PAUL WOULD CANCEL HIS SHOW THEN!

There was no question of cutting his two hour set, the request was simple, allow Judge Jules to play between his 2 hours and PVD's 2 hours. If we had not corrected the problem which Jules agreed to help with then Paul van Dyk would not have been able to perform anyway as we would have had no show. I know of no REAL reason or can not find any reason why on earth he wouldn't play one hour earlier. What was the problem? Same crowd, same arena, same 2 hour set why would he not help us with our show?


But one thing in the organizers statement is right! I was not in a very good mood... and I think everybody can understand that.

Everybody understand??????? Is he serious??? How about No! No, absolutely not. No one but no one should intimidate, frighten and verbally abuse anyone, let alone 3 males against one female. Absolutely and utterly unacceptable, disgraceful and obviously shows the character of the individual/s involved. This was my wife and I personally will not tolerate such behaviour against any of my staff least of all my wife. I think he is a disgrace to his profession for these acts alone. If I repeated what language and names he called Judith it would paint a very clear picture of him for all to see.


Of course the organizers never would tell the truth about having no balls to tell Paul van Dyk that they are the organizers of this event... not Paul van Dyk.

This statement is total hypocrisy. Yes, we are the organisers of the event and our requests should be politely accepted and ATB refused our requests to play one hour early. By its very nature ATB is guilty of the act that he has just accused Paul van Dyk of in the above statement

Since 10 years I have the same question! What is Paul van Dyk..s problem with my person?

After reading all these twisted excuses, it is now my total understanding and personal belief that contained within the above 2 statements by ATB is the real motivation behind his actions as to why he created this storm and refused to play Planetlove.


http://www.matthardwick.com/forums/...?t=29741&page=8

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Nik Novo
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Ich stell mir grad vor wie ATB und der Planetlove Organisator zusammen in der Kneipe beim Bierchen sitzen und sich den Arsch ablachen...


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mar she
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Saxony, Germany

quote:
Originally posted by Infinitor
Hier das Bild!
Wie kann der Veranstalter denn sagen, dass er ATB´s Spielzeit von 22 Uhr auf 21 Uhr wegen technischer Probleme (Generator) verlegen musste und erstellt aber schon Tage vorher diesen Timetable! Wie man sieht ist das nicht am Abend mal eben gedruckt! Da wird um Paul zu schützen wohl gelogen, bis sich die Balken biegen.
Ich denke ATB sagt tatsächlich die Wahrheit!



wie kann es aber sein, dass atb von 10-12 gebucht wird, wenn er aber doch von dreiviertel 9 bis dreiviertel 11 spielen soll, und das auch noch tage vorher bekannt ist?
da liegt der fehler doch eindeutig am veranstalter, und der verteidigt jetzt den paul, weil er selber angst hat von beiden seiten eins auf den deckel zu bekommen, weil er einerseits atb verarscht und andererseits paul ins falsche licht gerückt hat, mit seinen falschen angaben zu der ganzen sache!!! einfach nur peinlich sowas!!!, ich finde pvd und atb sollten jetzt gemeinsam gegen diesen veranstalter vorgehen. atb wegen nichteinhaltung eines vertrages, paule wegen schwerer verleumdung!

mal sehen, wer das auch so sieht!


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Keldana
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Location: Willich / Germany - GTA #175

quote:
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ich finde pvd und atb sollten jetzt gemeinsam gegen diesen veranstalter vorgehen. atb wegen nichteinhaltung eines vertrages, paule wegen schwerer verleumdung!

mal sehen, wer das auch so sieht!


laut offiziellen Aussagen des Veranstalters hatte PvD nichts damit zu tun ... wogegen sollte er also vorgehen ??? O.k., es gibt von ATB die Aussage, dass der Veranstalter ihn (also PvD) belastet hätte, aber das dürfte kaum ausreichen, um großartig aktiv zu werden.

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mar she
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Registered: May 2008
Location: Saxony, Germany

quote:
Originally posted by Keldana
laut offiziellen Aussagen des Veranstalters hatte PvD nichts damit zu tun ... wogegen sollte er also vorgehen ??? O.k., es gibt von ATB die Aussage, dass der Veranstalter ihn (also PvD) belastet hätte, aber das dürfte kaum ausreichen, um großartig aktiv zu werden.


es gibt zeugen, die belegen können, dass der veranstalter paul van dyk belastet hat, indem gesagt wurde, dass paule an der verschiebung des termins schuld sei!


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Keldana
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quote:
Originally posted by mar she
es gibt zeugen, die belegen können, dass der veranstalter paul van dyk belastet hat, indem gesagt wurde, dass paule an der verschiebung des termins schuld sei!


ja ... ATB´s Manager und sein bester Kumpel ... was für einen Wert das hat, dürfte Dir klar sein, oder ???

Und darüber hinaus ist ja auch die Frage, ob der Veranstalter nicht Gegenzeugen hat ... und wer das überhaupt ATB mitgeteilt hat. Denn dann kann der Veranstalter immer noch sagen "diese Äußerung kam nur von unserem Angestellten und war nicht von uns".

Also ATB dürfte wohl gewisse Chancen haben, dem Veranstalter gerichtlich beizukommen, aber PvD dürfte da wenig drauß ziehen können. Damit meine ich lediglich die Erfolgschancen, die bei Gericht vermutlich entstehen würden.

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Iniii
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Registered: May 2006
Location: berlin... gta # 310...

fremde kämpfe (btw mit gefährlichem halbwissen) ausfechten kommt ja mal immer gut....


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DJOverdose
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Registered: Jul 2005
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Was wird denn durch das Bild mit dem Flyer nun eindeutig? Für mich nicht viel...
Wenn ich als Veranstalter einen Act nach vorne versetze und demenstprechend Flyer drucke, wieso sage ich ihm dann nicht frühzeitig bescheid? Angeblich wurde ATB ja erst kurz vor knapp informiert ( wegen technischer Probleme).

Kann natürlich sein, dass der Veranstalter auf ganzer Linie versagt hat wo es nur geht, aber klar ist für mich noch gar nichts ...und ich möchte auch nicht weiter spekulieren.

So brisant ist das Thema doch nun auch wieder nicht, wie hier manche tun. Von wegen, PvD MUSS ein statement abgeben, rufmord oder Anwälten... Imo wird sich Paul einen dreck drum scheren was irgendjemand sagt und wird sich dementsprechend auch nicht dazu äußern.


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dedicated2008 ™
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also mittlerweile ist doch fast egal was am ende bei raus kommt. der ruf von allen drein (atb, pvd & veranstalter) hat dadrunter ganz schön gelitten!

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Iniii
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achso? also mir is das ehrlich gesagt schnuppe...


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mar she
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hauptsache es gibt weiterhin gute va's mit geiler musik von allen 3en... fertsch aus...


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