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Originally posted by Shakka Sorry--didn't mean to direct that so pointedly at you. I'm just getting tired of that argument. It's pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention too many variables involved.

to your earlier comment... damn right he isn't doing anything to help. He takes care of his union people and special interest groups, and channels money to the welfare program- but real, actual measures to help business get back on track and re-hire are not being taken at all. ONLY GOVERNMENT is hiring people at a positive clip, which is basically an expense to the taxpayer.

Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

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Originally posted by The17sss Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

This is black helicopter stuff.

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Originally posted by The17sss at a positive clip, which is basically an expense to the taxpayer. Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

Speaking of health care plans...either youre on some strong pills or you seriously need to ask your doctor to provide you with some strong pills-Either way something is up, because lately, for a smart person youre repliase are drifting dangerously to the wtf side (seriously, lay off fox news for a while...you dont have to watch msnbc...watch comedy central and get your news from stewart and colbert for a few days...the fair and balanced network will rot your brain).

Anyway, how? How can he get the economy rolling again if he wanted to? Should he wave his magical obama wand and ask the economy nicely to get off its lazy ass an start rollin again? How will you convince people to spend money on anything if you have just this week rich people on tv loosing their house and shirt? What incentive does an employer have to hire workers if nobody is prepared or for that matter able to afford their product. What can obama do to make a company thats lucky to be even start hiring again and go against its best interests(by all the gods in the multiverse if you say lower taxes for the rich here. i will find a way to falcon punch you, even though we have half of the planet earth between us). To get the ball rolling again you need the majority of people back in the black and able to afford to buy stuff and not the upper 1%. And easing the burden (which would include affordable healthcare) is a step toward that goal.

I think i just made an argument that affordable healthcare is good for the economy without explaining myself...well it will have to wait, its 5 am and i need to get at least two hours of sleep or ill be in a very bad mood when the alarm starts ringing at 7am...

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Originally posted by The17sss Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

and its stuff like this why most of us struggle to take you seriously. if there's ever been a better time to label you a partisan hack, i haven't seen it

get a grip

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Originally posted by The17sss Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

Ya, and the Republicans brought down the World Trade Center to start the world along the path to One World Government.

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Originally posted by The17sss Anyone with a brain knows that if he wanted to get the economy rolling, he could, but that doesn't fit into his plans. The chaos serves his agenda very nicely; The more job losses pile up, the more people having their unemployment benefits run out, the longer the lack of hiring goes on, you can expect more and more people to be dumped from their employee health care plans.... and who's the one entity that can ride in like a knight in shining armour and save the day? The State.

You have officially crossed into conspiracy theorist territory.

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