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Originally posted by TWD I just have to call this one absolute BS. The quality of Traktor may be questionable to some, but you can't just cherry pick products. You know full well that Serato is 100% stable, and while I don't know sales figures and so forth I'm sure you also know full well that it's questionable to call Traktor the market leader over Serato.

Did I say anything about quality? I said STABILITY & COMPATIBILITY. And Serato is known to have random stability issues as well.

And TSP IS the leader when it comes to sales figures.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 I completely agree man. I dumped my cdj1000's for traktor there were too many advantages imo. But the tactile feel of playing on cdjs will always be more fun to me. So the fact they're combining the best of both worlds is what's selling me. And even if i'm not impressed with the actual cdj2000's they natively control TSP! It's like a win win. Either I dump TSP for the new features and variety of media types that can be used or if it's a dud then I can still use dvs with it albeit much easier than before.

You don't use control CDs?

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Pioneer invited me to a launch party last nite for these, and as one of the few people to have actually used them & the rekordbox software, i have to say that they are very very impressive.

Plug in laptop via usb into the cdj2000 and control traktor/serato/ableton. No box required (as soon as serato sort out a usb/software dongle anyway- for now you have to have the box connected via usb as the box itself is the dongle), no cables, no patching.
Works flawlessly with all three- that's the BIG selling point and why these are going to become the new industry standard very quickly.

Feel good to use, solidly built, screen is superb and the software is very fast.

nice units... the ability to simply bring one USB stick or DVD rom disc packed with gigs of wavs is superb- the software is going to be released for sale on its own at some point, enabling people who dont have the units at home to prepare and bring to the club..

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Originally posted by Freak Pioneer invited me to a launch party last nite for these, and as one of the few people to have actually used them & the rekordbox software, i have to say that they are very very impressive. Plug in laptop via usb into the cdj2000 and control traktor/serato/ableton. No box required (as soon as serato sort out a usb/software dongle anyway- for now you have to have the box connected via usb as the box itself is the dongle), no cables, no patching. Works flawlessly with all three- that's the BIG selling point and why these are going to become the new industry standard very quickly. Feel good to use, solidly built, screen is superb and the software is very fast. nice units... the ability to simply bring one USB stick or DVD rom disc packed with gigs of wavs is superb- the software is going to be released for sale on its own at some point, enabling people who dont have the units at home to prepare and bring to the club..

fuck yea

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Originally posted by Clovis You don't use control CDs?

I had problems with them and the sound so I said fuck it and control everything manually now and with triggers on my djm800 for cueing.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Did I say anything about quality? I said STABILITY & COMPATIBILITY. And Serato is known to have random stability issues as well. And TSP IS the leader when it comes to sales figures.

while i can't speak for everyone using serato, i can say that since i made the switch from full on hardware to it in april that i have not had a problem once with it in any aspect.

I won't speak for traktor, as although i have tried it a few times, i've seen it mess up with my own eyes a few times.

I'm still looking forward to giving these a try, but it is more for the curiosity of it then anything else.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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Originally posted by lenazi while i can't speak for everyone using serato, i can say that since i made the switch from full on hardware to it in april that i have not had a problem once with it in any aspect. I won't speak for traktor, as although i have tried it a few times, i've seen it mess up with my own eyes a few times. I'm still looking forward to giving these a try, but it is more for the curiosity of it then anything else.

Well we do have to concede that a certain percentage of users could have issues. However when it comes to Serato we're talking about percentages that are in the single digits. So again you have to ask is it worth paying 3 times more when 95% of the time it won't make a difference anyways? I just have an issue believing that the market will think such an insignificant difference in stability is worth that much.

hence why i said "i can't speak for everyone using serato".

i also have a really good laptop though...so i'm sure that people trying to run this with less power could have more problems than i.

I'm glad i made the switch.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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Originally posted by Freak Pioneer invited me to a launch party last nite for these, and as one of the few people to have actually used them & the rekordbox software, i have to say that they are very very impressive. Plug in laptop via usb into the cdj2000 and control traktor/serato/ableton. No box required (as soon as serato sort out a usb/software dongle anyway- for now you have to have the box connected via usb as the box itself is the dongle), no cables, no patching. Works flawlessly with all three- that's the BIG selling point and why these are going to become the new industry standard very quickly. Feel good to use, solidly built, screen is superb and the software is very fast. nice units... the ability to simply bring one USB stick or DVD rom disc packed with gigs of wavs is superb- the software is going to be released for sale on its own at some point, enabling people who dont have the units at home to prepare and bring to the club..

Nice round up.. The native support for the DVS systems does seem pretty nifty. Dj's will still have to bring their laptops around but i suppose the sound card can be left at home.

It'll be interesting to see how these take off.

Regarding the price though, I couldn't care less about the american costs as i know for a fact that they'll probably just charge the same amount in euro for the units. 3200 euro converted back into US and then tell me you'd still pay the price

And I'm not a hater Mfitter, I love you.. x

the only thing that sucks now is that i will get less for selling my 1000's...dammit.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

I can see the hype is out there for these units

Prices in europe:

cdj-2000 around 1700 Euros
cdj-900 around 1200 Euros

thats a lot, good luck pioneer with your marketing :P all those little boys dreaming about them because armin said they're fantastic

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