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Sand Leaper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Here in the US in a select few states (OR and WA I know it is already legal) it has already been legalised. The legal framework has also been created and defined. If I remember correctly, in WA you have to have 2 different doctors say basically the same thing, you have to go to a counselor of some sort, be terminal, and you have be evaluated by a psychiatrist. I could be wrong on those facts, but that is what I read a few months ago. As such, me being a healthy human being, I cannot seek assisted suicide to end my life.


Yeah, it's allowed in Washington (I-1000), Montana (appeal is still being processed) and Oregon (Death with Dignity Act: http://oregon.gov/DHS/ph/pas/ors.shtml) by the looks of it.

It's a good start, but as long as there are red states, however, I very much doubt that this is a trend that will catch on to a large extent in the US. Furthermore, I suspect that conflict over whether cases comply with the definitions of "Capable" and "Informed decision" in the DWDA will bring many of them to a screeching halt. It will nonetheless be interesting to see how this pans out now that the UK has been going over the issue themselves.


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Old Post Sep-21-2009 21:35  Norway
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Silky Johnson
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quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea i guess i just don't sympathize with weaklings. i've been through some shit myself but you just fucking keep on going. you cry like a bitch for a couple of weeks and grieve and move on and become stronger for it. i dont understand people who can't do this.





It's as simple as not ever having learned the right coping skills. I used to be of the same mindset as you...but the reality is that it ISN'T that simple as just "getting over it". There's a certain cognitive process to moving on, and if one hasn't learned how - they can't. And those are the people who need therapy.

That's just how it is.

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Slylee
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood, FL

true. i've cut off friendships with people who couldn't display this behavior before lol


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man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Yeah, it's allowed in Washington (I-1000), Montana (appeal is still being processed) and Oregon (Death with Dignity Act: http://oregon.gov/DHS/ph/pas/ors.shtml) by the looks of it.

It's a good start, but as long as there are red states, however, I very much doubt that this is a trend that will catch on to a large extent in the US. Furthermore, I suspect that conflict over whether cases comply with the definitions of "Capable" and "Informed decision" in the DWDA will bring many of them to a screeching halt. It will nonetheless be interesting to see how this pans out now that the UK has been going over the issue themselves.

Yeah I agree that there are things that still need to be defined. There will always be cases that should be evaluated individually as opposed to automatically through not meeting certain criteria I think also. Since not every case technically fits into the definitions, but would still imho qualify.


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea i guess i just don't sympathize with weaklings. i've been through some shit myself but you just fucking keep on going. you cry like a bitch for a couple of weeks and grieve and move on and become stronger for it. i dont understand people who can't do this.

Don't expect others to be like yourself: you're not infallible


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Slylee
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Registered: May 2001
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Originally posted by Lira
Don't expect others to be like yourself: you're not infallible


yea i know i can't expect everyone to be mentally strong. i've definitely noticed just how hard it is for most people..especially girls/women. fucking crazy bitches who can't take rejection, omg. i've been friends with a few in high school and even a 30 something year old who acted 18 that's basically what i meant about not being able to tolerate weak minded people. they drain you.


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man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Arbiter
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Generally I'd have to say that death is a responsibility, not a right.

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lenazi
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Don't expect others to be like yourself: you're not infallible


i would say "inflatable" because they are probably smarter.


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No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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Slylee
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yea i know i'm such a moron! lolol i couldn't find my way out of a brown paper bag


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man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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lenazi
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or probably afford one


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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

Old Post Sep-22-2009 00:53  Kazakhstan
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Slylee
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ok whatever you say mr. i need to take a pill to do anything lol fucking loser


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quote:
Originally posted by notelfreak
man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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iclone
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: berlin4lyf

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
usually people who commit suicide forfeit their life insurance.

there are policies that cover it...you just pay a higher premium.

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