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Originally posted by RichieV you just contradicted yourself

no

my god to be an American u really dont read English well. concentration problems???

i said that my early experiences with these big trance parties was the trigger to making me wanna dj, and then later decided to try produce again (i tried producing at early ago too but with no success as i didnt really have any vision). by the time i understood how stuff was made I was mostly tired of those parties, and made the music for myself instead.

I dont see whats your problem.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I don't care what you think about my attitude, whether it is "negative" or not. My attitude doesn't determine whether my view is correct. Counterexamples. Post them. People who did not start making or playing music until 18+ and who you think are amazing musicians on the skill level of someone like BT or Thom Yorke. If you think hard work means everything, then you should be able to think of at least a few, right?

It doesn't mean everything as there are many variables but it certainly is a large part of being succesful in any industry and no I'm not going to post examples because music is subjective and what I consider a great musician may not necessarily be a great musician to you.

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Originally posted by Microlab What's in common between you and bubbletoe?

Who the fuck is bubbletoe?

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Originally posted by SDM no my god to be an American u really dont read English well. concentration problems??? i said that my early experiences with these big trance parties was the trigger to making me wanna dj, and then later decided to try produce again (i tried producing at early ago too but with no success as i didnt really have any vision). by the time i understood how stuff was made I was mostly tired of those parties, and made the music for myself instead. I dont see whats your problem.

A : I"m not American
B : You really don't express yourself clearly
C : You said you need to experience a club/Rave to make a good song , then posted later that you don't go to clubs and are not part of the scene. Its just a little fucking weird for someone so concerned about talent , success and all that comes with that.

you even said so yourself you are a complete twit when it comes to language. A little odd that you start criticizing other people's exposition at this point no ?

well if ur not american and i myself are terrible in english its kinda hard communicating really lol, we should just end it, its not going anywhere. i just saw your flag and expected you to understand me even though i have bad language but even danish people or germans understand me better haha.

back on topic, yeah i think one need to experience a club in order to make a good club track. but one doesnt need to stay at the club his whole life, its possible to move on and "leave the scene" while still be able to remember how it was so you can recreate the feeling it gave u back then, in a track. call it nostalgia if you want to. i just think that you should have seen it yourself, but you dont need to be a part of it.

i also think u have missunderstood me or mixed me with someone else here, im not concerned about talent or success or anything, im was just trying to say that if you succeed at a early age your most likely to last really short. for what reasons im have no idea, could be lots of things as stated earlier (moving on, coke, lost inspiration, pressure, anticlimax, etc etc).

think its time to end it, were not going anywhere with this, pointless discussions with loads missunderstandings and shit, im just saying my opinions.

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Originally posted by Fledz It doesn't mean everything as there are many variables but it certainly is a large part of being succesful in any industry and no I'm not going to post examples because music is subjective and what I consider a great musician may not necessarily be a great musician to you.

I bet we agree on at least a few people being great. Why not list some who started at 18+?

Mainly because I'd be lying if I said I took an active interest in when they started. It's the end product that counts for me and what they went through to get there. Whether they learned piano at 5 or bought their first sequencer at 16 makes no difference to me.

I wish I did do piano and learned chords when I was little but I didn't and dwelling on that will get me nowhere. There's no reason I can't learn now.
We're not going to agree anyway, so there's no point continuing this.

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Okay.

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Originally posted by SDM well if ur not american and i myself are terrible in english its kinda hard communicating really lol, we should just end it, its not going anywhere. i just saw your flag and expected you to understand me even though i have bad language but even danish people or germans understand me better haha.

I didn't realize Americans invented english. It is hard to communicate because you don't express what you mean in a clear fashion.

so what are u talking over there? african? hispanic? french? hindu? japanese?

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Originally posted by SDM so what are u talking over there? african? hispanic? french? hindu? japanese?

there's a language that is known as African?

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Originally posted by EgosXII there's a language that is known as African?

i dont fucking know what the hell their talking down there and i dont care. they oviously cant communicate at all.