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EDMDancer
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It is pretty difficult to open using trance. There are lots of ups and downs in trance tracks, except perhaps psytrance tracks. It is not easy to construct an opening trance set with gradual buildups and smooth transitions on energy level. I've seen this happen many times that during a trance opening set, people start to leave the dance floor once the DJ hits a breakdown.

quote:
Originally posted by mar46017

I think that opening DJ's should have a similar style. house/house, trance/trance, tech/tech.

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DaveT
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yep. when an opener plays trance with breakdowns, the crowd tends to come-and-go.

And it's why the best openers for trance acts tend to not play trance when they open. They understand trance and know what works well with trance, but don't necessarily play trance in their opening sets. OK, well some do but the ones that do it well are far-and-few between. Most (95%) that do fail and fail hard.

You can always start with prog house or even some techno and work your way into prog trance or wahtever. Or put some prog trance in there, andt hen chancge it up when you get towards the end. But if it's an opening set that's pure prog-trance/trance, chances are there are gonna be issues. If you are DJ who can't go outside the box (trance) when opening, then you shouldn't be opening.

When it comes to the peeps leaving-and-returning to the floor constantly during an opening set, the place I've seen this happen by far the most over the years is at Circus (this isn't anything recent...just over the years). Funny part is, I've been there on nights with two headliners where the first one is more just good ole trance with the second known to lpay harder...if the first one plays too many breakdowns, the crowd there wille ven just leave the floor until the next DJ comes on. I remember this happened when I think Alex Morph & Sean Tyas played. Or someone & Sean Tyas. The first headliner wasn't really doing it that night -- lot of breakdowns by the first headliner and it was pretty bland -- so the crowd didn't fill the floor. Tyas came on and everyone came back in. I though Tyas was boring as it was just such a generic set, but the zombified crowd was kinda into him.

I always try to say an opener should get the crowd grooving, not jumping. If they are constantly jumping, the opener prob is doing too many breakdowns & buildups. If they do jump, it should be off of a groove...a big kick in the track...and not every track (you don't want to wear the crowd out!). Hard to explain.

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omega1n
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I think Dada Life did a horrible job opening for Tiesto last night. Way too hard of electro house.

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Hypersky
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Don't they teach this in Disc Jockey 101 ?

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Randy S
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Originally posted by Dj Minaya
Exactly.

On a side note Randy I look forward to opening for you and Infected Mushroom on the 25th. I've got your Porterhouse mix on rotation and can tell it's going to be a good night.


Looking forward to it as well Mr. Minaya.


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bscarbro
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quote:
Originally posted by omega1n
I think Dada Life did a horrible job opening for Tiesto last night. Way too hard of electro house.


Dada Life shouldn't be opening for anyone. Period! His whole style is way to intense for an opener.

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djjoshuaallen
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
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lol he was one of a kind


this is true. and yes he is still alive. Ive had dinner with him recently. He is trying to stay out of the party scene for various reasons, but is actually looking to do a party for the big israeli holiday in february I think

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djjoshuaallen
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Originally posted by Clovis
Opening is more fun than playing peak time imo, and almost always much more difficult.


This is so true. Especially in trance clubs, its pretty easy to drop the huge trance tracks one right after another peak time. Opening proper is much more difficult. And when ur done u get to party!

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Nerologic
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Registered: May 2007
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quote:
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I think Dada Life did a horrible job opening for Tiesto last night. Way too hard of electro house.


Who cares, they were opening for Tiesto LOL

They prolly did it on purpose

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mar46017
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quote:
Originally posted by Nerologic
Who cares, they were opening for Tiesto LOL

They prolly did it on purpose


The opener for Tiesto in TJ wasn't that good either. Serge Devant usually does a good job opening and/or closing for Tiesto.


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Nerologic
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quote:
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The opener for Tiesto in TJ wasn't that good either. Serge Devant usually does a good job opening and/or closing for Tiesto.


I heard that show was pretty good, was it?

I was going to go, but i was too busy at the street races running my CRX for cash lol

Ahh the good ol days...

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gerard6975
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here's Thee-O's opening set for Robbie Rivera

Thee-O - Live at Giant (11/07/09) by Thee-O


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