if i feel the service was shit (this goes for anywhere... bars, clubs, restaurants, etc) then i simply wont tip. thats how they know they need to work on their service.

if the service is exceptional then i dont have a problem giving up to 50% tip as long as its worth it.

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict So who cares if they got paid $2 an hour. Not my problem. That is a problem with their employer who pays them shit wages. So I as a consumer have to subsidize their wages while the owner of the restaurant rakes in the money because he pays shit. What about other jobs that don't get tips? People do it not because they actually care to, but mostly because it's a "social standard". For example the pizza delivery guy gets a tip. Meanwhile when I worked at Shoppers drug mart delivering prescriptions back when I was in University, I got no tips. For an 8 hour day I was lucky if I had $2 in tips. Why? Because people are not used to getting that service, and don;t think twice about not tipping for it.

the guy that delivers to my place from pizza hut drives a G35

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Originally posted by LKD the guy that delivers to my place from pizza hut drives a G35

damn... you pakis must tip each other a LOT.

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Originally posted by chinamon damn... you pakis must tip each other a LOT.

he's rice like you

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict Yeah I understand that, but again that is not my issue. That is an issue between the employee and the employer. They should pay the employee more money. If they don't, well again not my problem. The excuse is used that all services would cost more and in restaurants the food would cost, etc if the people were paid more. Well fine then raise the price of the food/service. I just don't like the feeling of guilt put on customers to feel like they have to subsidize the employees wages.

you clearly don't grasp the full meaning of working for minimum wage (servers) as well as other people in industries where tips are involved tipping a server at a restaurant is a globally known practice - depending on how much you like the service, you tip accordingly
if you don't like that - go to self-serve places

tipping bartenders are places like Guv is somewhat ok if they actually make me a drink as opposed to openning a bottle of Rev.. I'm not gonna make a fuss over leaving a few $$ for someone who is nice to me and provides speedy service too (waiting in line ups for a bottle of anything is uber annoying)

Cabs - I usually just round it to the next dollar

Hair stylists - my lady is self-employed so I always leave $5 behind since her prices are ridiculously low and I pay no tax on that

at the end of the day - if you don't want to, don't tip. Noone will yell at you for that.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew tipping a server at a restaurant is a globally known practice -

known but not practiced in most parts of the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_(gratuity)

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Originally posted by LKD known but not practiced in most parts of the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_(gratuity)

yeah. when i was in china we left a tip at the table of a nice restaurant and they chased us as we walked out the door to give it back to us. i said "just put it in your pocket and dont tell your boss." but she kept trying to put it back in my pocket. so i started doing this at all restaurants just to see their reaction. sure ehough they all chased me as i left.

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Originally posted by LKD known but not practiced in most parts of the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_(gratuity)

practiced everywhere I lived before

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict So who cares if they got paid $2 an hour. Not my problem. That is a problem with their employer who pays them shit wages. So I as a consumer have to subsidize their wages while the owner of the restaurant rakes in the money because he pays shit. What about other jobs that don't get tips? People do it not because they actually care to, but mostly because it's a "social standard". For example the pizza delivery guy gets a tip. Meanwhile when I worked at Shoppers drug mart delivering prescriptions back when I was in University, I got no tips. For an 8 hour day I was lucky if I had $2 in tips. Why? Because people are not used to getting that service, and don;t think twice about not tipping for it.

Its not the same. You dont understand the business that you are talking about. You would pay for it either way. "I" the employer does not pay "shit wages" as you say and we couldn't afford to do otherwise.
Want the same level of service but not have to tip ever? Then be prepared to have to pay a lot more for your food.

I know all of us restaurant people operate gold mines and we sit in offices counting our gold bars while we pay our servers shit wages as you say.

We live in a tipping culture and a service industry business model that operates within that culture. You can choose not to tip, but you will always be the exception. Good luck trying to change it.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew practiced everywhere I lived before

you sound like the way my mom talks.

if she sees 3 people doing the same thing then she automatically says EVERYONE does it. you've lived in a few countries and now tipping is practiced globally.

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