Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Chill Out Room > Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag T-Shirts
Pages (8): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

Well if my balls are on the line, I am willing to bet their parents put them up to it, or at least supported their move to piss people off. What's the worst that could happen?, I'm sure they said.

The principal was in the right, if you ask me, because he was not trying to deny these kids their right to celebrate their heritage or nationality or something - he was foremost trying to keep the peace amongst a potential situation where somebody could get seriously hurt. That is his job - to protect the students, no matter whether he thinks they are right or wrong.

School in the US really is a crucible - where cultures tend to meet with mandatory attendance as well as hormones. The cultural transmission one tries to uphold to honour the will of their family should not be underestimated, futile and irrational as it may be - kids are all too often just confused projections of their parents anyways, so when parents hear second-hand what sort of situation their kids are in, platitudes start to form, prejudices are made, etc. etc. This is not an uncommon thing at all, and I am by no means saying it's exclusive to American High Schools, but I think it's kind of the staging ground for a great deal of people in this country in a lot of ways that can turn very dangerous. Thankfully, Michelle Pfeiffer is a tough teacher who isn't afraid to lay down the law.


___________________
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Last edited by Halcyon+On+On on May-11-2010 at 01:02

Old Post May-11-2010 00:54 
Click Here to See the Profile for Halcyon+On+On Click here to Send Halcyon+On+On a Private Message Add Halcyon+On+On to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
woscar
Starstuff



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nobody in this thread knows if the kids were doing it to start a fight or if they commonly wore that shirt.


Like I said above: seriously naive. They were even wearing flag bandanas for fucks sake.

And Kevin, are you getting your political opinions from extremist right wing blogs now?



quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
haha... i see what you're saying but come on- the KKK is a known hate group who's goal/desire is the elimination of blacks/minorities. There's no hate crime in Americans wearing the American flag, regardless of what foreign country happens to have a holiday they want to celebrate. Arrangements should never have to be made by Americans to clear something like that. In fact, the assumption that Hispanic students will respond with violence when they feel disrespected is racist, and therefore solving the crisis by banishing the "offensive" shirts instead of letting students know that any violence will be severely punished is nothing short of cowardly caving to political correctness. I can't believe this is even an issue. I mean, who's country is this anyway?


quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
I don't need to know the school. It's typical "soft racism".... administrators insultingly assumed that their Hispanic students would erupt in violence at the sight of an American flag, and the only way to prevent this is to cower at the presumptive violence and preemptively cave in to the mob's demands that American flags be banned from campus. The inmates are running the asylum because of PC horseshit.


This shit's even copied word for word, LOL.

quote:
Originally posted by Extremist Right-Wing Blogger
The school administration then stirs in their own toxic contribution: An assumption (typical of the “soft racism” of leftist ideology) that Hispanic students will respond with violence when they feel disrespected (“the patriotic shirts could trigger fights” is the euphemism they used). Even worse, fearing violence from Hispanic students, the adminstrators solve the crisis by banishing the “offensive” items, rather than warning students that any violence will be severely punished. In other words, the racist administrators insultingly assumed that their Hispanic students would erupt in violence at the sight of an American flag, and the only way to prevent this is to cower at the presumptive violence and preemptively cave in to the mob’s demands that American flags be banned from campus.


SOURCE

That's fucking pathetic, dude.


___________________

My Set Archive - MY BLOG

Old Post May-11-2010 01:06 
Click Here to See the Profile for woscar Click here to Send woscar a Private Message Visit woscar's homepage! Add woscar to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
And Kevin, are you getting your political opinions from extremist right wing blogs now?


Now?


___________________
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Old Post May-11-2010 01:07 
Click Here to See the Profile for Halcyon+On+On Click here to Send Halcyon+On+On a Private Message Add Halcyon+On+On to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
woscar
Starstuff



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Now?


Yeah, I know...lol. But I never thought he actually stole arguments verbatim from these nutjobs.


___________________

My Set Archive - MY BLOG

Old Post May-11-2010 01:10 
Click Here to See the Profile for woscar Click here to Send woscar a Private Message Visit woscar's homepage! Add woscar to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

If you don't echo the opinions of your preferred neighbours, how can you ever have unity?


___________________
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Old Post May-11-2010 01:12 
Click Here to See the Profile for Halcyon+On+On Click here to Send Halcyon+On+On a Private Message Add Halcyon+On+On to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Like I said above: seriously naive. They were even wearing flag bandanas for fucks sake.


You've missed the point. Who fucking cares why the kids did it? This thread is just a one-over battle between political positions.

EDIT: You've also neatly proved my point by making a shit-flinging spin-off thread while I was penning this post. Congratulations.


___________________
Mixes:
> Maximum Elevation [Progressive House]
> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

Like these sets? Come see me play live at Kibosh in Manchester: https://www.instagram.com/kibosh.mcr/

Old Post May-11-2010 01:20  England
Click Here to See the Profile for SYSTEM-J Click here to Send SYSTEM-J a Private Message Visit SYSTEM-J's homepage! Add SYSTEM-J to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
WittyHandle
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2008
Location:

Old Post May-11-2010 01:42  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for WittyHandle Click here to Send WittyHandle a Private Message Add WittyHandle to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen



Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

My thoughts exactly. This is just mayonnaise under the faucet, guys.


___________________
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Old Post May-11-2010 01:48 
Click Here to See the Profile for Halcyon+On+On Click here to Send Halcyon+On+On a Private Message Add Halcyon+On+On to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
WittyHandle
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2008
Location:

I'm glad someone got it. I was afraid it might be too obscure.

Old Post May-11-2010 01:55  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for WittyHandle Click here to Send WittyHandle a Private Message Add WittyHandle to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Zharen
Put down the plate



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: On a spit of sand we call Earth

http://www.examiner.com/x-19917-San...-US-flag-shirts

quote:
Hispanic students from Morgan Hill’s Live Oak High School staged a march this morning from the high school, through downtown, to the headquarters of the Morgan Hill Unified School District. According to the Morgan Hill Times, about 200 students participated in the march. When they arrived at the MHUSD building, the students were told to leave. The march has continued to Morgan Hill City Hall.

Students were protesting what they believed to be a show of disrespect following yesterday’s controversy in which 4 students were sent home for wearing the American flag on their t-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. (Initial reports from yesterday indicated that 5 students were sent home; but according to the Morgan Hill Times, one student returned to school the same day.) The marching students believed that the students who wore the American flag t-shirts had shown disrespect to Hispanic students by doing so on Cinco de Mayo.


So tell me, oh good people of TA, what the fuck common sense is it for people to protest on City Hall over an incident where the school administers had sided with them? "Odele, we won the con..con...conttrrrvrsy pero let's protest anyway! Fight the gringos!"

Old Post May-11-2010 01:59  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Zharen Click here to Send Zharen a Private Message Add Zharen to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
WittyHandle
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jun 2008
Location:

Who said that makes sense?

Old Post May-11-2010 02:22  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for WittyHandle Click here to Send WittyHandle a Private Message Add WittyHandle to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
EddieZilker
This is the dance.



Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nobody in this thread knows if the kids were doing it to start a fight or if they commonly wore that shirt. You don't know the kid, you don't know the teacher. Everyone is assuming one way or another, though, which makes this story one gigantic Rorcharsh test for political alignment.


Sorry. This is incorrect. I'm a centrist. I dislike left and right almost equally. I also live here and, perhaps, have a little more insight into the tenor of the actual exchange than you. I've seen the arguments about illegal immigration, in the multitude.

Google Lou Dobbs. Seriously. He was a correspondent on CNN. Without understanding the history of this cluster-fuck you have little chance of coming to some conclusions which are informed by facts.


___________________

Now with extra singles!
my old stuff, not quite up to snuff - but I still dig it - UPDATED 9/23/2012

Old Post May-11-2010 03:19  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for EddieZilker Click here to Send EddieZilker a Private Message Visit EddieZilker's homepage! Add EddieZilker to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Chill Out Room > Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag T-Shirts
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (8): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPlease Help Id This Track [2002] [0]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPaul van Dyk - "People" [2003]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:22.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!