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Originally posted by Lira

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Originally posted by woscar
Is your cherry-picking intentional or accidental? I explained the exact intention of the question here:


Your intention of setting some trap for my ego (which failed to spring, despite what you appear to think) was not apparent in the original question or when I called it an appeal to authority. As I just said, your line of reasoning appeared to be entirely an appeal to authority. Granted you've now clarified, but you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid not to see how your post came across as an appeal to authority as opposed to bait. One might even say that the objective of bait is to disguise its true form. Not you, apparently.

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You keep operating under the assumption that since things don't matter to you then it also must apply to the other 6 billion inhabitants of planet Earth. Resulting in post after post after post of demeaning remarks.


I don't recall at any point stating nobody else could discuss the subject matter. I said I didn't see the point in the question. People are free to care about what they want, and I'm free to question the point in anything I want. I'm not sure where you've got this idea I'm trying to force the other 5,999,999 people on Earth to think like I do. And cry me a fucking river about "demeaning remarks". We'd never find you demeaning anyone or anything on TA, would we?

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You keep using this in arguments and it's quite embarrassing because it denotes either a deliberate intention to distort or a complete ignorance of the various uses that quotation marks have in the English language (although not exclusive to it).


Have a look at the sentence you used it in:

quote:
... saying that you are more "enlightened"


I don't believe that for a second. I think that's backtracking. Not only did you use the verb "saying" four fucking words before a quotation (and I know you're not a brilliant writer, but you should be able to spot the problem with that), even if we ignore the quotation marks the misrepresentation is still present. Where have I said, written, typed or claimed to be more enlightened, or any synonym thereof, than Aristotle or any other philosopher? Oh wait, I haven't. So whether or not you'd intended to notate "unusual language", you're still misrepresenting my position by claiming I've said something I quite clearly fucking haven't. You keep doing that. It's really quite embarrassing. I think you know the name of the fallacy, too.

Now, since you're not interested in wasting your time on me any longer, put your money where your mouth is and fuck off.

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Originally posted by ivofivo
Connecting to a person, for me, has always been a challenge. Unless it involves finding nemo with a hot babe. Then I care very deeply...

I ask this question solely from my own interest to extract your GENIUS thoughts.


Is it a challenge because you want to make friends, but struggle? Or is it a challenge because you don't see the point of friendship? Or do you just not care about others?

Jungian psychology divides people into introverts and extroverts, although it's more a sliding scale than binary division. Put basically, introverts are happy in their own mental company and derive more pleasure from solitary acts than social situations. You don't have to be shy to be an introvert - you can be confident enough, but just don't feel the need to socialise with others. Extroverts are the opposite - they derive their happiness and energy from social interactions, and so they need friends to feel complete. Anyone who tells you that friendship is the most important thing, or the key to a happy life, is most probably an extrovert.

While the reductive definition of a friendship is always pretty much the same - a relationship between two people who like each other, or at least a simulation of that mutual affinity - the point of friendship can vary greatly depending on the type of person you are. You strike me as the kind of guy who's happy to engross himself in solitary activity and doesn't need other people to facilitate that happiness. If that's true, I'd ask you: do you never feel like you need to talk to other people, to share your emotions with someone else?


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Originally posted by jennypie
Friendship is a lot like peeing your pants. Everybody can see it, but only you can feel it's true warmth.

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Originally posted by ivofivo
Hmm...interesting. There are a lot of groups, however, that do tend a corrupt household. Alcoholics, drugies, damaged parents, unethical parents..ect.

But what interests me the most is that my statement can be just as irrelevant as it is correct.-

If you grow up in a household with flaming alcoholics, you can grow up to be just like them, or be satisfied with a different life style and graduate a prestigious school, all on your own.


I agree, we are all products of our environment but it doesn't mean you can't rise above the stigma of your environment.
The lazy and comfortable tend to never take the steps to rise above and then just rot into what their enviroment is.


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Originally posted by Lira
Sure, that's true. However, even these individuals bond in a way or another: criminals, for all their bad deeds, still join mobs and gather around gangs; alcoholics may display a sign or other of affection; and so on.

Once again, that's true. However, would you really be prepared to say alcoholics don't know the meaning of friendship?


No matter what you are or your drug of chose is, people will always be able to grasp the nature of friendship with another soul.
I saw a documentary on prison where rapist and murders (in this certain prison) became very attached to cats.

The prison had a cat theory rehabilitation but you had to prove yourself that you wouldn't hurt the cats, and in this prison with all the interviews that were done, these inmates created very special bonds with these cats. So friendship can go beyond human to human friendship.

Also the soothing of the cats made the inmates nicer to other inmates and guards.


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