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Originally posted by Seandroid WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

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Originally posted by Seandroid WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

Fucking hippies

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Originally posted by DJ RANN By itself it's not a bad idea to ask here as there's many people producing different music and could lead on to other suggestions that many of us might not have otherwise known about, but from what i can see the thread was started for petty and frankly childish reasons, in which case it should be deleted or moved to the c0r.

I don't even care that he went ahead and made a thread about this, what I'm having trouble following is why he actually thinks any of this leads to any sort of conclusion.

I listen to a relatively small amount of music and almost all of it has literally zero impact on my own songwriting, so why he's trying to argue that we *need* to either listen to more music or be comfortable and aware of the fact that we're missing out by not doing so is beyond me.

Damn Kysora takes the words right out of my mouth.

First I want to respond to System Jerk.. you're telling me to reread your post when your response clearly dictates you didn't even understand what I was talking about. I never said you called me a simpleton, I said you chose that label FOR me.

ie. Girl sleeps with 10 guys in one night. I say "don't you think you're being a bit promiscous"? She says "I am not a whore". Promiscous and whore are 2 completely different words. Whether she realized it or not, she called herself a whore long before I did. You called yourself a simpleton. And as quickly as you even chose to bring that label into this debate, its evident you have some sort of association to it already.

Now for anyone who doesn't know, that IS psychoanalyzing.

Back on topic. Hippies are hippies because they smoke entirely too much pot, and the second they stop they usually start killing each other.. wait, wrong topic.
This thread was contrived to demean a forum of people you are largely ignorant of. Had you posted in this forum more than the occasional bluemoon, you'd see the majority of people here are likely more "in touch" than you could ever be. For one, a lot of us percieve dubstep as a cruel sophisticated form of ear rape, that should be punishable by death. While a few others like it. No big deal, prob the same trend for rap who knows. At any rate, you can tell us you don't care till the cows come home, but you made the thread. Any arguement afterwards in that regard is totally irrelevant. I also don't expect you to say "I'm a bitter person", nor do I expect most people to admit their flaws, still doesn't change that fact that you are bitter.

Get over it, grab a box of kleenex, and just know if you ever get the temptation to be brought back "in touch", we're only a forum away. In the meantime, enjoy discussing the influences music has had on your life, how its changed your diet, and the way you shit and brush your teeth. Meanwhile, I'll be getting in touch (in a nonsexual way) with FL Studio.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Damn Kysora takes the words right out of my mouth. First I want to respond to System Jerk.. you're telling me to reread your post when your response clearly dictates you didn't even understand what I was talking about. I never said you called me a simpleton, I said you chose that label FOR me. ie. Girl sleeps with 10 guys in one night. I say "don't you think you're being a bit promiscous"? She says "I am not a whore". Promiscous and whore are 2 completely different words. Whether she realized it or not, she called herself a whore long before I did. You called yourself a simpleton. And as quickly as you even chose to bring that label into this debate, its evident you have some sort of association to it already. Now for anyone who doesn't know, that IS psychoanalyzing. Back on topic. Hippies are hippies because they smoke entirely too much pot, and the second they stop they usually start killing each other.. wait, wrong topic. This thread was contrived to demean a forum of people you are largely ignorant of. Had you posted in this forum more than the occasional bluemoon, you'd see the majority of people here are likely more "in touch" than you could ever be. For one, a lot of us percieve dubstep as a cruel sophisticated form of ear rape, that should be punishable by death. While a few others like it. No big deal, prob the same trend for rap who knows. At any rate, you can tell us you don't care till the cows come home, but you made the thread. Any arguement afterwards in that regard is totally irrelevant. I also don't expect you to say "I'm a bitter person", nor do I expect most people to admit their flaws, still doesn't change that fact that you are bitter. Get over it, grab a box of kleenex, and just know if you ever get the temptation to be brought back "in touch", we're only a forum away. In the meantime, enjoy discussing the influences music has had on your life, how its changed your diet, and the way you shit and brush your teeth. Meanwhile, I'll be getting in touch (in a nonsexual way) with FL Studio.

"And as quickly as you even chose to bring that label into this debate, its evident you have some sort of association to it already."

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I'm starting to think psychology is a load of shit.

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Originally posted by Kysora Well then what is this, a thought experiment? If you were just trying to "show" us something about ourselves by implying we're ignorant to contemporary music, and this thread is trying to inform us of that, then you must think there's a good reason behind putting so much time into this thread and arguing with everyone. Which means you have to care on some level.

I've only put so much time into this thread because I've been stuck at home ill for several days with nothing to do but listen to music on Spotify, and this thread has been some idle distraction in the meantime. I started it entirely to test my own suspicions.

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I know that was a response to what someone said but that coupled with the whole point of this thread just makes it seem like you're out to prove that the people here don't listen to enough music. What I'm wondering is why you think that proves anything.

I think it's absolutely self-evident that listening to music is vital for making it, because listening to music teaches you what music actually is in the first place. I'm not claiming everyone has an identical response or that there's any precise conclusions that can be drawn from a thread as unscientific as this. If I've made an assumption, it's possibly the safest and most general one imaginable.

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This thread was contrived to demean a forum of people you are largely ignorant of. Had you posted in this forum more than the occasional bluemoon, you'd see the majority of people here are likely more "in touch" than you could ever be.

I lurk here a lot more than I post, and I've seen all you little regulars having your repetitive little arguments and all the usual egos clashing over and over. I know a lot more about you than you seem to realise. And I understand why you and everyone else is reacting so badly: because you've suddenly and uncomfortably discovered what an outside observer thinks of your visible actions, an observer you don't really know and who doesn't fit into the time-honoured Production Studio cast. So you're desperate to try and get me pinned down to a nice simple archetype or explanation that you can dismiss. I'm sure you're aware of the constant struggle in psychology between the idealised self-projection and the perspective of everyone else. For a man who has loudly and angrily claimed that you have absolutely nothing to fear from the opening question, you're still here and getting increasingly red faced in your angry reaction. And you still haven't posted a list, like most people in this thread.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm not claiming everyone has an identical response or that there's any precise conclusions that can be drawn from a thread as unscientific as this.

Then what are we doing here? :\

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J 1. If you have a job and you commute, or work in any kind of environment that allows music, you've got time to listen to music. And you should find the time, quite frankly. 2. The music of others is absolutely vital for creating your own. Absolutely vital. Even when you're just starting out, learning how to make sounds, you do so through imitation. The more different styles, approaches and ideas you've been exposed to and continue to expose yourself to, the broader your palette will be.

1. Last year, I worked a job in which inter-office communication was vital, and where we weren't allowed to wear headphones or listen to music. I carpooled to work, meaning I couldn't listen to music, and on the rare occasions when I was alone in the car, I spent it listening to Spanish audiobooks in order to study for university. At the gym, I had many friends, meaning wearing headphones was a social snub. Basically, my only free listening time was the 90 minutes or so between getting home and going to bed, and weekends. However, I also had very little time to research or find new music. Not everyone has the same lifestyle as you, so stop being pig-headead.

2. How can you say that when you have no real producing experience yourself?

I should add that I'm not really trying to defend anyone here. Your point has plenty of validity, I'm just throwing light on some things you failed to consider along the way.

The biggest problem I have with this forum is the way people give feedback to one another. I'm familiar with nearly all of the technical jargon I read, so I'm not intimidated by that. However, anytime someone asks for advice, it's always, "oh, you need to throw a filter on that bass and cut off all the frequencies below 10kHz." People are always imposing their own styles and techniques on others rather than a more general "that bass is a little muddy...". It's like everyone wants to re-write one another's essays rather than just fixing the spelling and punctuation.

Oh, and so many people in this section are little cry-baby bitches. With exceptions, you're all so busy slapping one another on the back that whenever anyone poses the slightest bit of criticism, they're treated like a bitter, vindictive individual, as this thread has proven.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I started it entirely to test my own suspicions.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm not claiming everyone has an identical response or that there's any precise conclusions that can be drawn from a thread as unscientific as this.

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Oh stop being so insufferably self-righteous. You worked 20 hour shifts in a fucking salt mine, you had no time to listen to music. Cry me a river. If you've got time to go to the gym, to go out, and (saliently) to practise producing, you have spare time. If you choose not to allocate any of that time to listening to music that's your decision, but do not pretend it's anything else.

And what makes you think I have no producing experience?

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> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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