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srussell0018
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Registered: Dec 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Wow lol, russell arguing logical facts?! idiots proclaiming the end of teh world in 2012.

This thread is completely bizzaro world!


sigh.


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Old Post Mar-14-2011 05:57  Ireland
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Taipan
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Registered: Jan 2011
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ok, here's some logic. you've repeatedly used the word "if"; "if" the world is going to end. the use of that word is enough to label you an idiot.


Please elaborate... The use of the word "if" makes me an idiot?

Old Post Mar-14-2011 13:16  United States
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Meat187
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: The Night's Plutonian Shore

quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
Please elaborate... The use of the word "if" makes me an idiot?


Clearly not. But the words surrounding the 'if' make you one.
Take this for example:

quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
Basically, if the world is going to end in 2012, it doesn't mean we will notice any changes by 2011 or even by Nov. 2012, it will all happen within the final days.


That statement is so incredibly retarded that one can only assume you are trolling.


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Old Post Mar-14-2011 13:28  Germany
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Taipan
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Registered: Jan 2011
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Clearly not. But the words surrounding the 'if' make you one.
Take this for example:



That statement is so incredibly retarded that one can only assume you are trolling.


Okay - I'll admit that sentence was a little over the top, however, in theory it does makes some sense.

When an exponential curve reaches a singularity - with time on the x axis and growth (population, resource depletion, etc) on the y axis - then at that point the rate of growth becomes almost instantaneous.

I assume you know what I'm talking about but just in case - the singularity is the part when the curve shoots up into a straight line.

Refer below -



Old Post Mar-14-2011 14:25  United States
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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
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Ooooooooooh. Exponential growth! It all makes sense now.


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Taipan
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Ooooooooooh. Exponential growth! It all makes sense now.


Old Post Mar-14-2011 14:33  United States
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Meat187
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quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
Okay - I'll admit that sentence was a little over the top, however, in theory it does makes some sense.

When an exponential curve reaches a singularity - with time on the x axis and growth (population, resource depletion, etc) on the y axis - then at that point the rate of growth becomes almost instantaneous.

I assume you know what I'm talking about but just in case - the singularity is the part when the curve shoots up into a straight line.


OK, first of all an exponential curve does not have a singularity at all (as in point of non-continuity or undefined point or whatever). The mere fact that the growth rate increases exponentially as well is - mathematically speaking - just boring and ordianry. It is not called a singularity and it is not "almost instantaneous" and certainly not "a straight line". It's just a big number.
So much for the math. Now the reason why I called you an idiot is that you claimed anything in the real world might behave like that. Doubling every xx years, until with the final doubling the capacity is exceeded. Because in that you completely neglect the nature of the real world process (like population growth) and any regulatory influences.


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Moral Hazard
Oppressing the 99%



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: with the 1%

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
if by shit you mean "palm" and by fan you mean "face" then yes, shit is gonna hit the fan.


PKC wins thread!


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Originally posted by RickyM
you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

quote:
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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
OK, first of all an exponential curve does not have a singularity at all (as in point of non-continuity or undefined point or whatever). The mere fact that the growth rate increases exponentially as well is - mathematically speaking - just boring and ordianry. It is not called a singularity and it is not "almost instantaneous" and certainly not "a straight line". It's just a big number.
So much for the math. Now the reason why I called you an idiot is that you claimed anything in the real world might behave like that. Doubling every xx years, until with the final doubling the capacity is exceeded. Because in that you completely neglect the nature of the real world process (like population growth) and any regulatory influences.


Noooooo, another notch for the troll belt!


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Halcyon+On+On
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Oh shit, I knew this day would come.

We're out of paint chips, guys. We're going to have to start tossing Chinese toys to the pavement just to sustain Taipan.


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Meat187
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Noooooo, another notch for the troll belt!



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Old Post Mar-14-2011 15:21  Germany
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Halcyon+On+On
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Gather your Kinder Egg collection, Meat. We need to feed Taipan.


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