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Originally posted by Raphie My take on it: Soundcloud perfectly reflects the music industry. Too many "artists & producah's" People do remixes for free, people release for free, people viral tracks for free, it's nearly impossible not to obtain a track for free. and there are soooo many to choose from I our genre, music is considered "disposable" and nearly solely distributed via online media. Our "fans" are the online generation. The one or 2 oflline opportunities are releases on compilations, which by themselves are probably for 80% being pirated by our fans (the online generation) So, from a producers/artist perspective one has to be in it for the love, or become that huge that they continueously have iTunes top10 coverage and radio airplay (and i don't mean internet radio, but real radio) And even there if you look at the breakdown of revenues from artists like Beyonce, most is airplay gigs and endorsements. So, is it "piracy" or is it "transparancy" and "accesabillity" that hurt the "industry" and to be frank, how many of us ARE really in the industry and how many pretend they mean something in the industry?

as much as you want to believe disposable, it doesnt exist. there are fans to be herded. real talk. get crackin' bro.

guys, although i have no successs, dont let all these things hurdle you down, just do your thing and get fans.

This is true MSZ, though it's a quite a difficult step turning social media "likes" into revenue.

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good luck bro; keep at it.

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Originally posted by Raphie This is true MSZ, though it's a quite a difficult step turning social media "likes" into revenue.

No it isn't. I'm not going to elaborate on that though. Not until my label has launched .

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

pm me if you can help me storyteller :P

It will take months still, maybe a year. I'm surprised nobody has done it yet. I've been having the idea for this for about 18 months now.

I'm in the process of slowly building the website and communication with external platforms. The business-model still isn't 100% clear yet. Communication plan is only very basic. Long term strategy is clear but how to get there is not. Just the technical requirements for the website are near 100%. But that's the biggest part in the end.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

i think you have the same idea i had....

the only problem is hosting / servers / interface. there must be a hundred of us. whoever goes first wins i guess. dont forget the little guys.

You've been referring to this quite a while now, seems you've cracked the code here and got something substantial on the way.

Curious what it is.

Turning likes into revenue as an artist I find difficult. Finding marketing opportunities / online marketplaces / Social media crossovers / traffic generation to make money off, is something else.

I'm quite sure that if you bring something to the table for both fans, artists and labels by bringing them together YOU can make money of that. (just like aggregators make more from artists release fees than from their royalties)But that was not my point. My point was to turn MY likes as an artist into revenue (and not being seduced to pull my credit card for the next big artists marketplace that WILL make the difference) (assuming you're working on something like that)

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Originally posted by Storyteller No it isn't. I'm not going to elaborate on that though. Not until my label has launched .

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@MSZ: VPS. Directly scalable to demand . Furthermore I have a selfmade framework to create online platforms on which communicates with third parties just fine. And most parties have their own platforms that work well too so all I need is time.

@Raphie: Turning likes into revenue is the easiest part in my concept haha.

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

Competing with REBEAT? different business model then i guess?

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Originally posted by Storyteller @MSZ: VPS. Directly scalable to demand . Furthermore I have a selfmade framework to create online platforms on which communicates with third parties just fine. And most parties have their own platforms that work well too so all I need is time. @Raphie: Turning likes into revenue is the easiest part in my concept haha.

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I'm not sure what to do with distribution yet, that is another issue. I can't launch all the ideas I have at once unfortunately. I'm focusing on the label mostly now. Then I'd aim on selling the promotional platform behind the label as a seperate product. And last I intend focus on digital distribution.

If I ever get that far...

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

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Originally posted by MSZ good luck bro; keep at it.

Hi Msz,
Your music is great.
And you are right. It has been proven that the up and coming producer has it worst now.

Case study Miarose that was signed to sony and went viral.
123,644,003 hits on youtube teen market biggest consumer of music and soundscan sales not worth mentioning. She left NY went back to Europe...
If she can't sell records with major label muscle and sony backing her up and 123,666,003 hits on youtube the future is bright for Tranz producers nobody has heard of selling mp3s from their bedrooms on the internet.

Monetize new media bunch of shit lies and smoke and mirrors like we said it was.
We the people in the record store physical distribution business who YES did have interest in preserving our business but at least we kept it real and never bullshitted people. And people knew what we stood for.