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Originally posted by Lira So, in this sense, parroting what serious scientists say is way way better than denouncing something you barely understand (so far, I've never seen anyone but people who have no relationship whatsoever to climate studies complain about it).

I'm not talking about people believing scientists. I'm talking about people believing media shit like "let's all turn off the light for one hour" or letting politicians get through with any tax or regulation that allegedly saves the planet. Believing the scientists is fine, I do it myself.

And Bas, a cat would never share its popcorn.

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Originally posted by Meat187 And Bas, a cat would never share its popcorn.

I know

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit So who cares that we are skewing it? we know that life will persist easily within 10 degree temperature fluctuations. That is my point. Regardless of what we do, life will persist.

Are you retarded? We know that life will persist “easily” within a 10 degree fluctuation when that 10 degree fluctuation is achieved over millions of years. If we achieved a 10 degree increase in mean temps over a couple of months, eco systems everywhere would be destroyed. Guess what? We rely on eco systems.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit I never said that emissions didn't have an impact.

I know, I was just being clear about my position.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Let's however not forget all the idiots that buy into a climate catastrophe hysteria scenario propagated by the media and then derive the most stupid counter-measures.

I don’t know. I don’t hang out with hippes.

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Originally posted by Meat187 I'm not talking about people believing scientists. I'm talking about people believing media shit like "let's all turn off the light for one hour" or letting politicians get through with any tax or regulation that allegedly saves the planet. Believing the scientists is fine, I do it myself.

It's hard to take the media seriously, I give you that

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wrong thread but applies all the same, wierd

ta is going downhill ever since obama got elected

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Whether or not you believe CO2 emissions have a direct result in climate change, there is no denying that the recent (last 50 years) increases in CO2 emissions has caused the pH level to decrease in the ocean which destroys marine life and eco-systems.

This is fact and cannot be disputed through disbelief.

Also, the technologies that emit CO2 cause pollution on unprecedented levels. There's no denying that we would have a healthier world by investing in cleaner technologies. The air quality is only getting worse and it does affect our biological systems, especially infants in their development and pregnant mothers.

Climate change will always have its cynics, but I think the discussion should move to topics concerning how our technologies are really affecting the planet. I personally think climate change is a waste of time because the disbelief and politics poisons the debate.

I think it's simple; our current way of doing things is unsustainable. If you disagree, I would love to hear your input concerning topics like trash, acidification of the ocean, air quality, etc.

Oh, one last thing, if you really think that the increase in CO2 emissions has no adverse affect on the planet, you probably failed high school chemistry and don't know shit science.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Oh, one last thing, if you really think that the increase in CO2 emissions has no adverse affect on the planet, you probably failed high school chemistry and don't know shit science.

Oh, you brainiacs and your facts! Science is worthless, I trust my gut! And my gut feeling says we need to make more money and ignore these lying nerds!

And my gut feeling also says I want more strawberry cake. On a SUV. Felling trees.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Are you retarded? We know that life will persist “easily” within a 10 degree fluctuation when that 10 degree fluctuation is achieved over millions of years. If we achieved a 10 degree increase in mean temps over a couple of months, eco systems everywhere would be destroyed. Guess what? We rely on eco systems.

And i guess you're the genius who thinks that we can actually raise the earth's temperature by 10 degrees in a couple of months lol.

Why don't you throw a couple of meteors on teh earth while your at it as well; as if the KT extinction wasn't a prime example of the veracity of life.

Lets just look at carbon emissions for a second to humor you:







compared to where we are below



im pretty sure life persisted 500 million years ago and carbon levels were unimaginably higher.

The point is that carbon emissions are not a simple linear correlation to temperature. The idea that we could actually increase the temperature of the earth by over 10 degrees is ludicrous. And if that were the case, im sure it would be irrespective of anthropomorphic carbon emissions.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint This is fact and cannot be disputed through disbelief.

I choose the facts I want to believe and I believe that your facts are only the opinions of a godless heathen who shall spend an eternity in hell once October 21, 2011 passes.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit And i guess you're the genius who thinks that we can actually raise the earth's temperature by 10 degrees in a couple of months lol.

I figured I wouldn’t have to explain that comment, but apparently you’re fucking thick.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit im pretty sure life persisted 500 million years ago and carbon levels were unimaginably higher.

what has that got to do with anything I’ve said? Are you even fucking reading my posts? Jesus Christ.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit The point is that carbon emissions are not a simple linear correlation to temperature.

Yeah, no shit Sherlock.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit It's odd that i'm even having this conversation with you, the guy who is all anti conspiracy theory, now taking about raising the mean temperature of earth by 10 degrees with these levels of carbon emissions. Irony at its best.

Yeah, your idiocy and inability to read sure is funny. I mentioned 10 degrees because that’s the example you used. Moron.

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