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No it wasn't. You made a completely separate argument that MWNN wouldn't be a draw because not enough people who went to Cream were knowledgeable enough to remember him this far down the line:
All famous superclubs have tourists. You, however, seemed to think Cream had such a large quotient of them that a retro reunion night wouldn't be able to muster a crowd of people who would recognise Man With No Name. There's a difference between a realistic piece of cynicism (world-famous superclubs attract people who just want to experience them, without any real knowledge of the music being played) and wildly over-the-top negativity.
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Yes, that was another argument I made. If you can somehow prove that MWNN being on the bill was what made the reunion event successful, not the Cream brand and the associated nostalgia, then yes, you'd be right in calling me out on misjudging the overall knowledge of Cream's patrons. The event being successful in and of itself does not prove that, though. I also disagree that arguing for the existence of these "tourists", as you call them, is somehow cynical by default. It's only cynical once you regard these people with disdain for not being as involved with the music. I don't.
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Because you're talking about a body of evidence to give precedence to cynical assumptions but you only cite one single example which wasn't even from an actual event, it was a radio broadcast. I don't think I need to delineate why the two are very different propositions when it comes to self-promotion. |
The importance of self-promotion isn't necessarily the only cause for old school going by the wayside. The Photek occasion I mentioned might just as well have been due to a miscommunication with his management, for instance, something that can easily happen when booking a live performance as well. Another issue could be that artists do not like to focus squarely on the past, which is why they play remakes, new remixes of classics, tracks from artists known by their past hits etc. to indicate that they are looking forward.
To sum up, there are several variables outside of the actual club that could potentially make retro themed nights turn out not quite as retro, and that was the concern that I was trying to voice. I did not assume that the Cream reunion would turn out that way, and it's getting tiring to point this out. You're being far too defensive about these events, and reading far too much negativity into my words.
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I'm also curious because while you're usually insightful and on-point, your more incongruously outlandish and inaccurate proclamations tend to be directed at things where you have no first-hand experience; clubs you've never been to and DJs you've never seen live.
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It's flattering that you are so interested in my thinking regarding electronic music and consider me insightful. However, what you're asking would be a rather self-centered debate to have in a public thread discussing MWNN's Essential Mix. If you really are that interested in discussing my personal way of thinking regarding electronic music, I suggest you PM me with these "incongrously outlandish and inaccurate proclamations" you're talking about, and take it from there.
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