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Originally posted by -FSP- I don't think anyone can do what Todd Terry or Todd Edwards can do. Sampling isn't as easy as it looks.

todd terry and todd edwards? these guys showed up 10 years late to the party.


jean michel jarre, bortoloti, moroder, waterman and even barbosa from new york. Take a look at what these guys were able to do with regards to innovation.


the italians were sampling and max mixing in the early to mid 80s

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Originally posted by mathieu Not Canada.

maybe disputed that gino soccio had a hand in here though.

and we cant forget the lepage gang with lime and other projects

from 1980:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Well, none of those are countries. New York gave the world disco and hip-hop, and for that is probably more important than either Detroit or Chicago.

new york is much more important than detroit or chicago. If we are talking about music production.

as for which country has had the most important impact, I think this statement is too vague to properly answer.

I'd say as a whole, artists from the UK have been the most innovative.

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i can say that the Dutch are the most loving and fun of the bunch.

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and one cannot forget the dutch talent of peter slaghuis. he was compiling music in the early 80s. He didn't come out with a sample music hit until 1989 with jack to the sound.

Here are some of the tracklists to his compilations:

http://www.discopatrick.com/home/2-...o%20breaks.html

like patrick cowley and thorsten fenslau, his early death was tragedy to the scene, as he had much more to offer.

I personally think the Netherlands the most and not because I live there.
We were, commercially and in the underground scene, the first ones actually presenting trance music to the world.

In 2000, a.k.a the golden age of trance music, the biggest DJs and producers were most of the time Dutch, e.a. Rank 1, Randy Katana (Katana), Signum, Tiësto (of course), Ferry Corsten etc.

However, Germany, Belgium and the UK were also had a lot of impact on the trance scene and today the day they still do.
It's your opinion actually where you think the best producers and DJs come from, because it's also a matter of taste.

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Originally posted by Skyler_Music I personally think the Netherlands the most and not because I live there. We were, commercially and in the underground scene, the first ones actually presenting trance music to the world. In 2000, a.k.a the golden age of trance music, the biggest DJs and producers were most of the time Dutch, e.a. Rank 1, Randy Katana (Katana), Signum, Tiësto (of course), Ferry Corsten etc. However, Germany, Belgium and the UK were also had a lot of impact on the trance scene and today the day they still do. It's your opinion actually where you think the best producers and DJs come from, because it's also a matter of taste.

Actually the only credits you dutch people can claim is for making trance shit.

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Okay. A Few things about The Netherlands:

In the early days you could indeed say it had some impact because the global scene was still quite small.
The first house club opened in '87 (RoXY, Amsterdam). And a few memorable house records were made: This is recognized as one of the if
not the first dutch house record:



Made by one of the founders of the club.
Another few memorable ones:

Great breaks tune from '91:



'92 classic ad possibly one of the first to hit the top of the regular music charts, even hit the UK charts i believe:



Still. We must not forget that the British imported the stuff a lot earlier and by the time were already far more prolific in their output. And Germany started growing a massive scene after the wall fell in '89.

The thing is, Holland is a small country, with less then 15 million inhabitants at the time. New York alone had over half of that. To top that the USA and UK had a far more developed musical culture. Also, the house scene started splitting up around the early nineties into mellow and hardcore, with the latter one to become the biggest.
Harddance became a rather closed scene and i don't think it influenced the majority of EDM that much. They kind off went and did their own thing.

Festivals didn't start showing up until the end of the nineties, and to be honest, they don't amount to that much. Even the biggest mainstream ones struggle to get over 50.000 Visitors. Love parade, as for a comparison, regularly flocks up over a million.

About Trance. Trance is a small scene, both in the Netherlands and worldwide. It's following is fanatic, they post on internet forums and vote on DJ polls, which make them seem a lot larger a group then they actually are. Plus: It's origins lay in Germany.
Tijs and Armin eventually became or biggest musical exports in terms of sales. But that really doesn't say much. As i mentioned before, the dutch never found much international success when it comes to music.
One of the biggest ones before them was George Baker for instance



Nothing to be proud of i'd say.

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Last edited by Bierheld on Jan-04-2012 at 16:59

best vid on yt

must thnk jean for his contribution.

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