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Originally posted by astroboy ALready exists dude... there is a Chinese monkey system that incorporates a drunken form... i'm serious

Its true. Alot of Kung Fu systems have a drunken form, including Eagle Claw and Preying mantis.

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so orbax have you given a go at these drunken forms of kung fu?

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Since you all have the experience...

I know some places will give you the full package, not just the way to kick/punch, etc. The history, philosophy, meditation, the whole nine yards. Are there certain disciplines that would incorporate more of the mental aspect when being taught? Or is that simply up to the teacher?

I took Karate when I was younger, which was just a joke, one of those things that everyone was doing. But being an Eastern Philosophies major I've grown very interested in starting a discipline but I'm not really sure which I'd like to go into. Plus, I've always been hesitant to go to a training area in the states, because I don't know which are legit and which are just out as a "business".

Specifically, if anyone lives in Pennsylvania and knows some areas to check out, I'd really appreciate it.

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Originally posted by Omegasox Since you all have the experience... I know some places will give you the full package, not just the way to kick/punch, etc. The history, philosophy, meditation, the whole nine yards. Are there certain disciplines that would incorporate more of the mental aspect when being taught? Or is that simply up to the teacher? I took Karate when I was younger, which was just a joke, one of those things that everyone was doing. But being an Eastern Philosophies major I've grown very interested in starting a discipline but I'm not really sure which I'd like to go into. Plus, I've always been hesitant to go to a training area in the states, because I don't know which are legit and which are just out as a "business". Specifically, if anyone lives in Pennsylvania and knows some areas to check out, I'd really appreciate it.

Its so difficult, especially for people new to martial arts, to find a good school. Since martial arts has become such a booming market, alot of people, especially in North America, have picked up some videos/magazines, learned some moves, and opened up their own school. Alot of beginners wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Even in China, its hard to find a good traditional school that will give you the full package.

When you go into a new school, there are certain things you should look for, like how class is conducted, how the instructor teaches, how the school is kept... does the school look traditional? or is it one of those new age urban fitness studios with AC and saunas (someone actually came into our school and asked if we had saunas) lol. You should also ask the instructor questions, about his lineage, what the school teaches... its also good to do a bit of research about the martial art you want to study, before looking for a good school.

Good luck with your search for a school. Finding the right one really makes a difference whether martial arts becomes just a hobby, or a way of life.

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I picked up my shinai yesterday.. can't wait to start practicing kendo.

especially when i get to wear the hakama (samurai style pants).

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Originally posted by Omegasox Since you all have the experience... I know some places will give you the full package, not just the way to kick/punch, etc. The history, philosophy, meditation, the whole nine yards. Are there certain disciplines that would incorporate more of the mental aspect when being taught? Or is that simply up to the teacher? I took Karate when I was younger, which was just a joke, one of those things that everyone was doing. But being an Eastern Philosophies major I've grown very interested in starting a discipline but I'm not really sure which I'd like to go into. Plus, I've always been hesitant to go to a training area in the states, because I don't know which are legit and which are just out as a "business". Specifically, if anyone lives in Pennsylvania and knows some areas to check out, I'd really appreciate it.

Signs of a dodgy martial arts school:

1) Mixture of diverse asian cultural elements (A comon example is a "Kung Fu" or even better a "Shaolin" school that uses Japanese gi's as uniform, has Japanese terminology like "kata" or "kumite", Japanese weapons etc...)

2) Claims to be the only inheritor of an extremely rare style (could be true but one should be careful)

3) Instructor says the style is too dangerous for sparring.

4) Sparring with other martial artists is discouraged.

5) Instructor/Master is reluctant to go into details about the history of the style or his/her lineage... lineage is agood place to start, it may not be all that important, but its a good way of ensuring that you're getting taught the real deal and not something the instructor concocted from a mish-mash of martial arts in the 60's.

6) You get your black belt after only two years of training and upon receiving it the instructor says: "would you like fries with that?"

Find out what schools exist around your area, if there are any Chinese martial arts schools (Kwoons), then post info here and either me or quddha or someone else may be able to help you out... Watch out there are a lot of scams in the MA world.

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Going to my first Bujinkan class this week, thanks for all the help!

(Didn't want this thread to die)

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Originally posted by trancendental Usually I'm pretty quiet about it, as I try to progress in my understanding for obvious reasons. I'm just wondering any TAs here have taken any self defence or better yet, still doing it.

Aikido 2 years

JKD privately trained for a year

am not hip on fighting but hey if I need to use it I will.

If it means life and death situation.

But like you I keep stay humble and not try to interact with any reason to fight at all. I'm a nice guy

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Originally posted by quddha Its so difficult, especially for people new to martial arts, to find a good school. Since martial arts has become such a booming market, alot of people, especially in North America, have picked up some videos/magazines, learned some moves, and opened up their own school. Alot of beginners wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Even in China, its hard to find a good traditional school that will give you the full package. When you go into a new school, there are certain things you should look for, like how class is conducted, how the instructor teaches, how the school is kept... does the school look traditional? or is it one of those new age urban fitness studios with AC and saunas (someone actually came into our school and asked if we had saunas) lol. You should also ask the instructor questions, about his lineage, what the school teaches... its also good to do a bit of research about the martial art you want to study, before looking for a good school. Good luck with your search for a school. Finding the right one really makes a difference whether martial arts becomes just a hobby, or a way of life.

Aikido and JKD are reason for good old school.. This one is not just kicking and punching and thats it.. This one makes you understand the history and why they do this.. ALso disciplinary action to calm yourself in a zen mood. PLus old school fighters are harsher then new school.. New schools are more of tournaments and trying to make it a sport. If you want old school do some reasearch on the history of that art and find the closet guy thats still alive and you will find your traditional martial arts.

I'd take a guy back in 1950s if you follow along those timelines you'll find your closet guy to the master. If its just recently and no background whatsoever connected to the master forget it.

JKD if you follow the history it also dealt with Gracis Jujitsu.. and the Gracis family are still alive in california and still ahve classes

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Last edited by DJ Lac on Oct-05-2003 at 03:24

You won't be disappointed if you took JKD.. within at least 4 months of continious training you can already take out 8 guys thats a fact. My friend took JKD while he was a senior in highschool. In 4-6 months time these highschool seniors from a different school ganged up on him because he was taking out this girl or something at this diner and i think they had issues with him. So him and his friend were called out and they were just standing there saying whats your problem.. My friend wasn't even going to fight until this one guy came up to him and then started to pretend "hump" his leg. So my friend pushed him to the ground, and thats when everyoen charged. But I felt sorry for the first guy who came after my friend. You should have seen it.. Guy just came running at him and then my friend just kicked him in the balls so hard that he started bleeding from his mouth then he kicked another in the stomach and punched another guy in the face. His friend helped out also but got knocked down to the floor as he punched one of them. Man it was a crazy brawl.. and you thought movies were real you should have seen this. Only if I had a video camera. I was so awed by it because man his training wasn't even a year or half a year to say and he just took em out so easily like it was trash.

Also 9 months in training this guy named Verol at the gym had 14 years of thai boxing exp. Verol was 30 years old and my friend was 19, and wanted to spar with him for fun. My friend never knew how much of an experience Verol had, but all he knew Verol was jacked up and knew how do grappling etc... Anyways so they did start the sparing.. and man my friend had killer legs and not meaning fuggin sexy but I mean like dangerous ones. One kick of his leg to your leg it will be broken just like that. So anyways on we go.. They start fighting.. My friend decides to give him a taste of what hurt means so he tries to do the hardest and killer kick. You hear a big SMACK, like someone hitting a wooden board. You thought the other guys leg was broken, but after my friend kicked, he moved back and his leg was badly hurt and couldn't move it much. It wasn't broken but it was sprained or something and was limping. They decided to stop cuz it was too much and he found out that Verol, trained in Thai boxing and Verol's legs were conditioned like crazy. Just think of a guy kicking a pole with his legs everyday instead of a punching bag. Just to show the motivation Verol even congratulated him because he has never seen a kid that age that would spar with a 30 year old 14 exp thai boxer.

I have many stories .. but now he takes judo and he won 3rd place nationlist in Long Island.. so anyone in long island know about that.. thats him .

I would want to train with him or spar with him anytime but I hardly see him.

I sparred with his friend at his backyard and all I gotta say those punching gloves hurt like a mofo.. but at least I got him in the face but he got pissed off and took me down on the cement lol (And you thought it was grass :P) Ya those were the days I haven't done it in 3 years but I still practice my warm ups in the bathroom everyday. More like a Zen feeling of calmnesss. If everyone took zen mediation nobody would have anything up their asses .

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what is this JKD?