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Bierheld
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Location: Utrecht, Netherlands

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Both your taste and how you present yourself are irrevocably tied into your personality and how you wish to be perceived. What you find aesthetically appealing at one point in your life can change drastically as you change as a person, so getting a tattoo for cosmetic reasons is a statement of complete confidence that your tastes will never change. To me that’s either short-sighted or stagnant. As for your tattoo, it sounds like you had it done to denote something of personal significance so it doesn’t really have anything to do with this point anyway. You might think the best way to denote something of personal significance is to scratch it permanently onto your skin. Personally I find that crass.
I think you're by-passing the value of commitment and it's function here a bit too easily. You can't always write tattoos of as a fashion statement as the whole point is to take away the disposability of such works and force meaning upon them true commitment. It was originally an ancient tribal practise of showing commitment to ones (sub)culture after all. It hasn't changed much in that regard, and it's rather a different thing then simply stamping a painting to your chest. When they were repolularised in the 1970's they were an important statement for the emancipation of the youth, being seen as marks of deviance by older generations. Still a very relevant thing today and not exactly something to be ashamed of.

Besides that your reasoning can just as easily be used to dismiss marriage for instance, the commitment to ones spouse. People just have a need for external anchoring of their own rash decisions sometimes, an existence of complete rationale were every decision has to be doubted forever is a much scarier prospect for most people. It's a way of keeping sane more then anything else.


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Mr.Mystery
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I wish I could get irrationally angry over something that makes no difference to my life whatsoever.

Hey, how about that gay marriage?

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Halcyon+On+On
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Come now, nobody is arguing that people ought not have the right to get a tattoo.


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Mr.Mystery
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Yet.

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Silky Johnson
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Actually I did say that people shouldn't be allowed to make the decision to get a tattoo until their 20s are over.

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Why not stop there though? There are so many things we could outright ban for people under 30. Sounds like a great idea, why don't we as society try and prohibit more things? For the greater good of everyone, you know.

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Silky Johnson
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Oh yes, definitely. I agree.

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Obamacare should pay for my tattoo imo imo


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Intellekshual
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I know people under 20 that have more maturity than people in their 30s.
It's true that you should spend time thinking about your tattoo and not get it on a whim on a drunken night, but I don't think people in their 20s shouldn't be allowed to get one. I got mine when I was 19 and I still love it to this day.


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PivotTechno
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Registered: Feb 2008
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well I’m very happily in a relationship, thanks, so I won’t be worrying too much about that, and it sounds like I’m a lot more balanced than you were at my age. Not that it will stop you incessantly criticising the personality of someone over 20 years younger than you in between bleating on and on about your own spiritual growth.


I was speaking of relationships in general, not necessarily of romantic ones, nor of yours in particular. Nor was my observation of the detriment of focusing on the more superficial aspects of a person directed specifically at you - apologies if it came across as such. It's more a product of self-inquiry, endeavouring to do away with conditioned preferences, with the goal of being more open to life's possibilities. I was conditioned to be miserable from an early age, and it's taken much time and effort to undo this.

Your ad hominem attack on my personal growth - which you only just touted as being a rather significant aspect of a person's existence - isn't exactly the hallmark of a balanced individual. Your observation that you consider yourself to be more balanced than I was at your age is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Carry on.


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Silky Johnson
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Goddamn you people really get personally invested in you own beliefs and offended at other people's opinions, huh? Doesn't seem very spiritually/emotionally/intellectually advanced to me.

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Lol, if only Rusty were still here to talk about his crappy tattoo and protest how much he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

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