I'm surprised nobody is getting flamed< i remember when i started these discussions, holy hell, was i bashed into a stone pit.

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Originally posted by Robotrance its current and volts coming out of the synth after its DAC - aka analog.

If it were analog, I doubt it would be called "virtual analog." Brandon Spivey used to use Cubase to sequence his analog machines, so I don't think one has to go 100% analog or digital. You can also connect the x0xb0x nowadays via usb to your DAW, if you wanted to make some Acid. And I'm pretty sure this analog synth sounds more genuinely "acidic" than any vst or digital synth you can find.

I do prefer analog, but I'm pretty sure there are many producers who use a combination of analog drum machines with digital synths, or vice versa. I know some who connected the x0xb0x to their DAW (e.g. Ableton) and it sounded great and genuinely Acidic, unlike so many digital 303 clones I've heard. But at the end of the day, of course it comes down to personal preference.

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Originally posted by Robotrance i guess youre right. i guess most "pro" people use hardware and either expensive mixers and a good adc or a multichannel adc for recording each instrument and mix in the box. in a studio that makes sense when recording voice, guitars and even real drums through mics. synths is a different matter imo. i really dont care. for me as a "synth-and-drummachine-only" musician working inside the box fits me better and i dont loose anything imo, very least sound quality. I actualy believe I gain it by not introducing dynamic reducing and noise generating devices in any chain. directly programmed wavs if you will.

math sounds a lot worse than current...

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Fuck, this is going on in two threads simultaneously;

There is a difference with analogue in that the signal itself is of an analogue source and never cut in 44,100 slices and regurgitaed until recorded. I think you can say you produce in analogue if there is no conversion or digital signal creation until to go to record the final product. Anything other than that, and you're not analogue.

Again, see the other thread for Bob Moogs eloquent analogy with light bulbs as to where the difference is in digital vs analogue signals.

Oh, and on the subject of cars, fuck Hydrogen. My former boss here in LA was give then the very first Hydrogen BWM as a gift from them. He sent it back after two weeks. The big energy companies are desperate to make hydrogen work because they want a drug they can repeat sell to you, just like oil.

Unfortunately, it's incredibly dangerous as a compressed gas - the gas tank on that BMW had to be so heavily reinforced that it was 25% of the car's weight and they had to beef up everything else to compensate. It meant a 7 series weighed 2.5 tons. That's more than a Mercedez SUV.

It also took 3 straight weeks to make the titanium reinforced fuel tank on the production line, and therefore it was calculated that even if you drove the damn thing every day for 30 years, in terms of emissions, you would not recoup the energy spent to make just the fuel tank.

I hate Hybrids - Nothing more than a placation for the oil companies who told the car companies not to cut them off by switching fully to electric.

They found the very first Porsche recently in a barn in austria. It was from the late 1800's. Guess what? Yep, Electric.

Digital is better when it comes to cars (unless it's vintage )

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about digitul from what i love is time code vinyl, and yeah new update for traktor!

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost about digitul from what i love is time code vinyl, and yeah new update for traktor!

It's posts like this that make me understand why you were banned. Well that and stalking that poor girl for the last 7 years

(you better hope they don't figure out you're using an alt while banned btw, that's grounds for IP / Perma-Ban you know)

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It's posts like this that make me understand why you were banned. Well that and stalking that poor girl for the last 7 years

I'm serious, i like timecode dac better than the real thing. Oh and i stop messaging her since a week.

yeahhh shhh for the love of music!

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost I'm serious, i like timecode dac better than the real thing.

I don't. I listened to a bunch of mixes made on vinyl then some made with CD (many of the same tracks from the same period) and danm, the vinyl mixes were so much nicer on the ear.

It may be that I'm conditioned to like the curve on the RIAA preamp, but If loving the preamp, is wrong, I don't what to be right.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Oh and i stop messaging her since a week.

On a serious note, I'm glad to hear that.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I don't. I listened to a bunch of mixes made on vinyl then some made with CD (many of the same tracks from the same period) and danm, the vinyl mixes were so much nicer on the ear. It may be that I'm conditioned to like the curve on the RIAA preamp, but If loving the preamp, is wrong, I don't what to be right. On a serious note, I'm glad to hear that.

You know def right but buying a cutter is alot of mula mula. I know you know that most of the good stuff comes out digital, so i'm stuck and use to it thas all. Bottom line cdjs doesn't have the feeling of a turntable thas what i believe.

fuk it thats itm i spent 10 hours trying make my analog gear up to par with my digital rendering of the wip i just did and it was a complete waste of time. ebay timeeee@!