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I took a look at that Tomy Declerque mastering vid and noticed he 'masters' early on in a tracks life which was always my preferred method but lots of people said not to do it but this reminded me of why I felt it was a good idea to do it as you go because if you leave it all to the end the mastering process can then reveal many issues such as an over compressed kick sample.

UA - anyone happen to know if you need a dongle or any hardware to run UA plug - ins?

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Originally posted by Richard Butler UA - anyone happen to know if you need a dongle or any hardware to run UA plug - ins?

i dont speak from experience but as far as I know, yeah u do need hardware for their plugins. not a dongle per say, but u need either their uad-2 or apollo interface to run their plugins. their software seems reasonably priced imo but their required hardware is what makes them expensive or "overpriced" in alot of ppl's opinions.

i looked into wanting to demo some of their plugins awhile back but read that I need one of their hardware interfaces to even demo a plugin. so that kinda rules out the point of demo'ing a product. the only way their demos make sense is if u already own a uad plugin and the hardware, then u can demo their other plugins no probm but if you're not already an existing uad customer then u can't really demo their stuff for free.

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Yes UAD runs on their SHARC cards, it's not native. Best copy protection in the bizz, you can't run it on a computer without

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It really is a dongle tho isn't it.

To whoever is reviving the old you can't sound analog with digital equipment listing a synth emx1 which is a vst in a box, you are not doing anyone any service. You place emphasis on equipment which given the amount of albums tracks that people start asking how did you make it sound so analog only to hear that they used the stock plugin and good ears.

Analog equipment is a workflow thing. certain chains have been established. Like presets in a way. Software takes a little more skill. Hardware looks nice. You should be in a room that looks nice,

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That was fast.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney To whoever is reviving the old you can't sound analog with digital equipment listing a synth emx1 which is a vst in a box, you are not doing anyone any service.

It is a vst in a box, indeed, but it also has two Vacuum tubes (Valve Force Circuitry) which create an analog tube circuit, giving it an original sound that you probably won't achieve with software. I also listed it because it's a "hardware" box, for relatively cheap, and would offer a different "workflow," as you mention, rather than just using software.

I would say software provides more options. Same , I don't know, but consider that almost every engineer is starting to use say impulse response tools for "reamping" a guitar, well ask yourself why. Software does Ot 1000 times faster, sounds identical different or better in the mix.

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The valves on Electribes were utter bollocks. I say this as an Electribe owner and fucking loved them but those tubes were for nothing more than show.

A lot of guys were either hard bypassing them or finding old style valves from the Czech republic to replace them.

Dickie is right though; they really were all solidstate machines in the 90's if anyone ever says "analogue sounds of the 90's" you know they;re a rookie. Like working in a studio and saying duct tape instead of gaffer tape. rookie mistake.

The thing with the 90's was the sounds, not really the fidelity or quality of the technology. That and the music was made by real musicians, there was a quality filter from vinyl blah blah blah.

A really talented engineer can exactly imitate that analogue feel with modern digital means - I've seen it done - it's just a very nuanced and subtle thing that takes serious experience, whereas anyone with basic engineering skills can get "that sound" out of true analogue gear. By the same token, anyone with basic engineering skills is going to have a tough time getting anything other than cold and clean from modern plugin fx.

Software does give unlimited options which is great, but it doesn't automatically mean better, unless you actually make it better.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN A really talented engineer can exactly imitate that analogue feel with modern digital means - I've seen it done - it's just a very nuanced and subtle thing that takes serious experience...

Therein lies the rub. How many software bedroom producers are also really talented engineers?

As I said before, I think the best option is probably to incorporate both, which many producers do nowadays. In fact I only hear amateur bedroom producers saying they don't need analog as digital can perfectly emulate it, etc. whereas they're likely unable to do such things in the first place.

Chances are its because they have never had or used anything analog in the first place.

Its not something you can download.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney It really is a dongle tho isn't it

yep it is, sharc, a pityful excuse for processing power, being the key

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