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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yes, I'm mightily intimidated. Given this discussion is about dress codes in clubs in different parts of the world, I was wondering where exactly you go out and what kind of DJs are playing because these things tend to give a good indication of what kind of people turn up and what kind of party ensues. The kind of club you're describing is usually antithetical to "fucking great music", at least in my experience of clubbing in various places around Europe.
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No, jack. You made it about me and not the discussion. I know you think you're a master wordsmith, but wide vocabulary does not equal quality of content, nor correct direction of argument.
You asked, I answered, but it didn't fit your closed minded and prejudiced narrative, so you attacked me.
Deep is probably one of the least douchey and most enthusiastic crowds I've ever been to. It's been running for over 15 years and pioneered deep house here in LA when it was this thing that most people said was too slow or weird. Marcus kept is going for all those years out of pure love and that's reflected by the crowd (typically over 25) and people make an effort because he has. I've been to over dozen of the events since I got here to LA, from industrial warehouse settings, to hollywood hotspots - the one thing you realize is the pure passion for the music which is always fantastic. It's the real fucking deal and has a nice bonus of having a crowd that appreciated it and make an effort.
So in essence jack, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. And this coming from the guy who would wax lyrical about John Digweed for years only to suddenly have it come out that you'd never actually seen him play.
You want to talk about prejudice? you're a walking definition.
None of this chin scratching, navel gazing that you seem to be be obsessed with. I bet you spend more time trying to recognise tracks played that you do actually enjoying yourself.
Then again, in your own words, you seem to think the idea of a night out is ending up as "goggled eye mess". Fun when I was 15 but then I grew out of it by maybe 20.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This is some novel Slychoanalysis. I must admit I was expecting the standard Jay-esque interpretation that I'm just poor and jealous. Instead I get the inverse - apparently I'm a deliberate class-slummer feigning poverty for authenticity.
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Don't miss read it. There's no sly about it. I was doing exactly that. It's not like you're on the Bedouin trail and have denounced all material goods is it. The fact you flip out and go in to attack mode when someone happens to mention their opinion that the state of personal attire or effort in many a club is sad these days is all about your own personal flaws and need for validation to tie yourself with a class that you perceive won't judge you.
Again, it's fine to admit you like nice things. Stop fighting it. I mean you like nice books, why not nice objects or nice clothes, or appreciate nice venues.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The truth is more prosaic, unfortunately, stemming simply from the fact you have a habit of turning every discussion, whether about street art or clubbing, into a not-so-covert dick measuring exercise. I'm sure it makes you feel fantastic to let everyone know that you can afford to "own and pay for nice things", but to me you just end up sounding like this. |
I think it's far more telling that you actually infer that from a simple statement, such as that clubs used to have a dress code at least of some sort, but now don't, and I find that sad.
So what do you do? Try to find an angle to judge me on, like I'm only going to see SHM fistpump at Drais while you wear ironic T-shirts in subterranean basements listening to mnml techno.
Just because someone has a different perspective than you, doesn't make their view any less valid.
Last edited by DJ RANN on Feb-28-2015 at 22:26
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