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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer haha get you i dont rememebr the austrailain dentist being an american, its over patriotic toss which the orrangant american were the best attidue comes from, and you wonder why so many peopel dont like america, your all to fucking blind to see this stupid attitude. hahahahaha another fucking yank who thinks "WERE NUMBER ONE" HAHAHAHAHAHA fuck off disclaimer: i am fully aware there are "normal" americans, regardless of how much this thread proves to the contrary.

Nowhere in my post did I claim my allegiance to the United States, nor claim we were 'number one.' Had you read other posts of mine in this thread, you would've seen my opinion on American government and media, and how they are flawed.

In this response, I simply claimed the fact that you offered cash to kill somebody who wrote a idealistic article about his country is sickening.

Referring to all citizens of the United States as 'yanks' further displays your ignorance.

1-0.

Fuck off.

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance Nowhere in my post did I claim my allegiance to the United States, nor claim we were 'number one.' Had you read other posts of mine in this thread, you would've seen my opinion on American government and media, and how they are flawed. In this response, I simply claimed the fact that you offered cash to kill somebody who wrote an article about his contrary is sickening. 1-0. Fuck off.

ah yes an of course loads of people have pmed me now saying they have set out to kill this man!

hahahah get a fuckin life

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Originally posted by quddha dude, wtf are u trying to say? lol. we have 3 universities and many many colleges in my city. And my government gives me a $9000 interest free loan and $3000 bursary so I can afford to go to university. Also, if I get sick, the government lets me go see my doctor for free. And as an extra bonus, my government doesn't make many enemies around the world.

as does mine, fecking class

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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer ah yes an of course loads of people have pmed me now saying they have set out to kill this man! hahahah get a fuckin life

I guess you just don't understand.

As per usual

FuzzyGreen's response are solely the opinion of the individual and in no way correspond to the views of other American citizens on this board or America in general.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Although the US government isn't perfect (far from it), it is the best government that has ever existed.

lmao. just when i thought this thread couldnt get any dumber, this turd wank comes out with this guffery.

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Originally posted by uwmadtrance As per usual FuzzyGreen's response are solely the opinion of the individual and in no way correspond to the views of other American citizens on this board or America in general.

thank fuck for that. I hope not everyone is blinded by such bullshit "propaganda" that the American goverment shits all over its citizens.

I dont know why people are even taking part in this conversation. Its not like what anyone says will change someone else's mind.

I'm not going to debate why anyone thinks we are near the top as in country status in the world. Anyone can look up size of military, amount of capital, and so on. Plus it depends on what factors you think matter when determining who is on top. If you want to throw in education or obesity, if that turns you on, then yeah...we arent on top.

We do what we do because we are in the position to do so. Very rarely will any country at all act if they arent going to benefit somehow. That isnt a US thing...its a human nature thing. And the people of the US should not portrayed in the way the government acts. Cause the average person in the US can never even get to the point most politicians are.

I'm an american and i'll say that any american that says we are the best is an idiot. Best is a subjective term. To say that, proves the lack of that person's inteligence. And yes americans are ignorant. The average HS student doesnt know where France is as someone says becuase they dont care were France is. Most americans arent wordly at all unless we choose to be. Hell...we can drive for half a day and not even get a quarter of the way across our country. You can drive a half day in another continent and experience more than one country, culture, way of living.

I am thankful for going to a college that had a lot of foreign people there. I learned a lot and can understand people's perspective. But its still stupid to have this debate. Pick any country and make it our size or Russia's size or China's and so on and that will inflate any problems or influence the country has.

But I know none of what I said matters nor does anywhere care...just had to say it.

And yes...I am Irish in the US.

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Originally posted by joeh152 You said that hitler killed Americans, and Hitler wasn't in charge of the Japanese military in world war one, did you even do history at school?

lol joeh152...i dont think i even need to comment on that statement.



as far as me starting flame wars..i put up a simple forwarded email..just to explain some of the reasons why im proud of my country..never did i say im better than any of you..infact it was people from other countries that started giving their reasons of why they hate america and are better than us.

im a second generation american so please dont blame me for killing native americans, slavery or anything else that happened before my family got here..if my grandparents didnt decide to move i would be talking to all of u with an italian flag in the corner..i feel close to my italian heritage because that is how we eat, celebrate our holidays and go about a lives..50% of my town is italian too..if u go into the meat market..all u hear is italian being spoken...the priest in our church is italian and if u want u can hear mass in italian.

i look at these threads and i see a lot of american bashing..people think this whole country is made up of monsters..when basically we are you..just not living in our native countries anymore. people come to from all over the world, like my grandparents, looking for an opportunity to make a better life for them and their families.
i am greatful for the opportunities that i have here. i love my country. everyone on here is ethnocentric. its not a bad thing to love your country.

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Ok, you guys completely missed my point. I wasn't saying that other places don't have good colleges. I was mearly saying that, if you don't, you blame it on the US. Hell, if trance is bad this month, you'll blame it on the US. Next thing you know, the US ruined the quality of E for you right?

As for what makes the US government better then all others, well: Checks and balances for one. 3 partitioned government (Presidential, Judicial, congressional), Constitution, Bill of Rights, seperation between Federal and state, and the most important property of flexibility and changability.

Denmark has a decent government, but I really doubt that, that government would stand much of a chance with the large population and land of the United States. Nor the UK government or any other European government.

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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen Ok, you guys completely missed my point. I wasn't saying that other places don't have good colleges. I was mearly saying that, if you don't, you blame it on the US. Hell, if trance is bad this month, you'll blame it on the US. Next thing you know, the US ruined the quality of E for you right?

quite possibly, the US ruined Paul Oakenfold, and it's turned Tiesto into a twat. Americas over the top drug laws could be blamed for shit E everywhere

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As for what makes the US government better then all others, well: Checks and balances for one. 3 partitioned government (Presidential, Judicial, congressional), Constitution, Bill of Rights, seperation between Federal and state, and the most important property of flexibility and changability.

thats great. Al Gore won the presidential election by a clear half a million votes, yet your judicial system still gave George W Bush the presidency. Your bill of rights means jackshit when you execute 16 year olds, and execute people that are possibly innocent, furthermore, many of the current government are trying to stop people on Death Rows right to appeal. Classy. Also believe your one of the few countries that haven't signed the international bill of human rights.....

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Denmark has a decent government, but I really doubt that, that government would stand much of a chance with the large population and land of the United States. Nor the UK government or any other European government.

Possibly not, but then again in the UK you have to be able to read past a 4th Grade level to lead the country, not just rely on Daddy everytime you fail.....
clear enough for you
just to make it clear, don't hate Americans, in fact quite like a lot of you, just hate the American political system

Let me apologize on behalf of all the americans that arent here to defend themselves against the american morons talking out of there ass here. These idiots are representing themselves...not the US. Remember that.

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