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PeacefulWarrior
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Boulder, Colorado

quote:
Originally posted by Izzy
ya, hehe...
otherwise true that the only ones there with any influence or power are Brad Blakeman, Paul Wolfowitz (i though he wasnt working in this administration), Dov Zakheim, Elliott Abrams (he has a cool sounding job, i'd like to have) and maybe the ambassadors...

i laughed at this one: Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community.... it would kinda help out his position if he were jewish.


just felt like doing research

i don't really put significant stock into the list of people i presented as a much bigger list of radical christians in the bush administration could be made.


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Izzy
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: TX TA #5

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
just felt like doing research


its cool


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tranceaholic
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Registered: Mar 2002
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Originally posted by melech_mike


Who said anything about Israel wanting that land? We took it over because your armies attacked up and lost. It’s your own fault. You can't cry about loosing land if you come attack ours, expecting to gain land, and in turn you lose your own land. Its part of war; you lost fair and square.
Out of Israel's intense willingness to make peace with Egypt, they decided that the land they gained (although a strong military strategic asset for Israel) was not worth conflict with its Neighbours. Israel doesn’t care to get the Sinai; we just took it as territorial gain in war.

Since you won’t believe any of my sources, I choose a British source.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/...000/2514317.stm


dude u have been attacking egypt since 1956..u were part of the triple attacked we sufferd in 1956 along with the brits and the french..what do u have to say about it..did we ever do anything to israel before that nope. What do u say about that except ur intrest in our suez canal and lands.

Old Post Mar-23-2003 00:28  Egypt
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Izzy
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Originally posted by tranceaholic
dude u have been attacking egypt since 1956..u were part of the triple attacked we sufferd in 1956 along with the brits and the french..what do u have to say about it..did we ever do anything to israel before that nope. What do u say about that except ur intrest in our suez canal and lands.

President Gamal Abdel Nasser on August 31, 1955:
"Egypt has decided to dispach her heroes, the disiples of Pharaoh and the sons of Islam and they will cleanse the land of Palesine...There will be no peace on Israel's border because we demand vengeance, and vengeance is Israel's death"


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yeah but did any attack actually take place..talk is cheap..and gee thats why u come in 1956 and stay til 1977..wow that justifies it.

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Izzy
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yeah but did any attack actually take place..talk is cheap..and gee thats why u come in 1956 and stay til 1977..wow that justifies it.


Egyptians blockaded the Straits of Tiran, and Nasser's nationalization of the Suez Cana in july 1956 was technically an act of war. On October 14 Nasser made clear his intent:
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"I am not soley fighting agianst Israel itself. My task is to deliver the Arab world from destruction through Israel's intrigue, which has its roots abroad. Our hatred is very strong. There is no sense in talking peace with Israel. There is not even the smallest place for negotiations."

less then two weeks later, on October 25, Egypt signed a tripartite agreement with Syria and Jordan placing Nasser in command of all three armies. The continued blockade of the Suez Canal and Gulf of Aqaba to israeli shipping combined with increased fedayeen attacks (fedayeen were arab terrorists trained and equipped by Egyptian intellegence to engage in hostile action on the border and infiltrate israel to commit acts of sabatoge and murder) and the bellicosity of recent Arab statements prompted israel, with the backing of Britian and France, to attack Egypt on Oct 29 1956.
Israeli ambassador to the UN Abba Eban explained the provocations to the Security council one day later:
quote:

"During the six years during which the belligerency has operated in violation of the Armistice Agreement there have occurred 1,843 cases of armed robbery and theft, 1,339 cases if armed clashes with Egyptian armed forces, 435 cases of incursions from Egyptian controlled territory, 172 cases of sabotage perpetrated by Egyptian military units and fedayeen in Israel. As a result of these actions of Egyptian hostility within Israel, 364 Israelis were wounded and 101 were killed."

even if the numbers arent accurate it does go to show that Egypt wasnt the peaceful neighbour you make them out to be prior to 1956. in fact the hostilities taken by Egyptian forces agianst the Israelis prior to the war justifies Israel's reaction.


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melech_mike
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great rebuttals Izzy


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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Hello! yeah it's old, but...

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because when you can't answer something up front, you divert the attention... its the best strategy and some of my fellow tranceaddicts are masters at this!


LMAO!

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"The west bank,
the gaza strip,
the west bank,
the gaza strip,
soon to become parking lots...for american tourists

Fuck zionism
Fuck militarism
Fuck nationalism
Fuck americanism

Fuck Religion."

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