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Originally posted by Az I caught mike out in the tranceairwaves room, under his DJ Baron guise (would never have known it was him if it wasn't for random and unprovoked denials on the hub). When I entered the room, I said "hey mike" and he said hey back. Then went off on one about why Shlomo_Hamalech and Melech_Mike are not the same person, and eventually started talking as each of them in the 3rd person. I couldn't care less about the IP addresses being from different ISPs, he seems to protest the fact a little too much, as if he knows they're different because he makes sure they are. Not hard to do anyway, I post from 3 different IP's.....

this is news to me. it's actualy pretty funny because i was never in the tranceairwaves room in my life. dont even know where its located!

I never talked to shlomo anywhere else but through TA.
I have also never protested for you to check my IP.

We're you high or something?
I hope you're joking.

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Originally posted by Izzy i agree with what you said. for me, any news about war in general would be enough to make me leave my home in search of safety. TheDemon: why are you here? have you got anything other then insults to add to this place?

What? did my commment bother you a bit? Dude, Iam not against your arguments, its just melech mike gets all upset when other people voice their oponion and begins putting everybody down and calling them names. and to answer your question, Iam here cause its my god given right.

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Originally posted by Az missed this, a thread in my honour, thanks shlomo, i mean baron, i mean mike to answer you're questions as best and honestly as I can If Israel is "occupying" territories today, who was occupying them until 1967? the palestinians, you can call them arabs, but all it shows is your ignorance and contempt for them. They have been known as the palestinians for a lot longer than people were known as israeli's If the West Bank and Gaza belong to "Palestinians", why were they under the control of Jordan and Egypt until June 5, 1967? it's a sorry fact that the palestinians are not the most fortunate group, and have never been well liked within the arab nations, which is strange seeing as the rest of the middle east would like nothing more than a creation of palestine...how things change..... If Arab "Palestinians" just want their own state, why didn't they ask for it before 1967? Who says they didn't? I hardly think you're clued up on the finer points of palestinian history Why is it, according to many articles written in 1967, that when the Arabs talked about "occupied territories", they meant all of Israel? I'm guessing they didn't like the jews being there it's a sad fact that throughout the ages, the jewish people have not been the most popular (bit like the palestinians eh?) top notch post from odori Stick to the topic please dude, just because somemuslims and "nice folks" tried to do it to the jews, it doesn't give them the right to ethnically cleanse anyone!, you're trying to justify genocide! now I do find this interesting that my name was in the top of this topic, I'd like to know why mike? it's not the israeli people I have a problem with Mike, it's right wing extremism. And I find it ironic that for a race that has been persecuted thoughout history by right wing extremists, that the majority of israel voted for a right wing extremist with a history of persecuting the palestinians, but maybe thats just the kefia wearing anti semite in me do fuck off mike, you're a fool

Respects for answering my question (although not what i would call sufficiant). We will obviously not agree on everything, but i appreciate you posting your opinions.

The others i have asked to do the same have visited this thread a bunch of times already(i see you browsing this forum), and have yet to rise to the challenge put forth upon them.

I could pretty much predict what Cyrus_kings post will be like.

Once again, Cyrus, Nalin, Ahamalek, and tranceaholic - when you have the time , please post your answers.

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The post about the Israelis torturing and murdering arabs is an example of an organisation and society that pretends that it cares about due process, but doesnt when push comes to shove care about the lives of arabs.

"From Sidon, too, came terrible reports of civilian casualties, of hundreds of refugees slaughered by a night-time Israeli air attack on a school, of several palestinian and lebanese prisoners beaten or starved to death by Israeli soldiers. Subsequent investigation by Western journalistw would prove that their reports were true."

"Listen , I know you are recording this but personally I would like to see them all dead.. I would like to see all the Palestinians dead because they are a sickness everywhere they go"

Israeli army lieutenant, Baadba, Lebanon, 16 June 1982

Again taken from Pity the Nation, I could get more quotes of more atrocities but whats the point.

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Originally posted by rupert The post about the Israelis torturing and murdering arabs is an example of an organisation and society that pretends that it cares about due process, but doesnt when push comes to shove care about the lives of arabs. "From Sidon, too, came terrible reports of civilian casualties, of hundreds of refugees slaughered by a night-time Israeli air attack on a school, of several palestinian and lebanese prisoners beaten or starved to death by Israeli soldiers. Subsequent investigation by Western journalistw would prove that their reports were true." "Listen , I know you are recording this but personally I would like to see them all dead.. I would like to see all the Palestinians dead because they are a sickness everywhere they go" Israeli army lieutenant, Baadba, Lebanon, 16 June 1982 Again taken from Pity the Nation, I could get more quotes of more atrocities but whats the point.

How does this propaganda contribute to the topic of the post?




















thought so!

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It always propaganda when it shows the truth. Robert Fisk is a respected Middle East correspondent. The man was there. He saw these things. He bore witness to countless massacres during all of the middle easts wars some committed by the Lebanese, some by Syria some by the PLO, but the worst committed by Israel or its proxies.

To say that what I quoted was propaganda is the saming as saying that a guy who says the sky is blue is guilty of propaganda.

Orwell had a term for the way you Israelis think. "DOUBLETHINK"

The ability to hold and accept the truth of two utterly contradictory statements.

You admire the effectiveness of the IDF when the reason why it is so effective is that it is utterly brutal and ruthless.

It is effective because its weapons are the best, and its soldiers always willing to use the most destructive method possible to kill the most 'enemies' whilst minimising their own casualties. What a suprise just like the USA.

BAM! STRAIGHT ON IT!

I used "Doublethink" a couple of times here and no on understood it.

The American govt and Israelis excel at Doublethink!

Say something, do the opposite, while knowing so, while at the same time forgetting that its wrong.

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Rupert some of the facts you point our are completely ridicioulous regarding the big picture, your post aren't clear.. I'd simply like to know what point are you trying to make here exactly?

Wait.... did I just read that Shlomo was suspended!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

So far, people who have been suspended from the political forums

1) Melech-Mike
2) Tiesto14 (x2)
3) Shlomo

Does anyone see a pattern? They post ignorance and profanity!

AHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHHHAAHHA

Sorry... i couldnt help it!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Does anyone see a pattern? They post ignorance and profanity!

What's the pattern? That people with different points of view are ignorant? That Jews are ignorant?

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Originally posted by occrider What's the pattern? That people with different points of view are ignorant? That Jews are ignorant?

no the pattern is that unintelligent right wing nutcases get banned
not rocket science

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Originally posted by rupert "Listen , I know you are recording this but personally I would like to see them all dead.. I would like to see all the Palestinians dead because they are a sickness everywhere they go" Israeli army lieutenant, Baadba, Lebanon, 16 June 1982 Again taken from Pity the Nation, I could get more quotes of more atrocities but whats the point.

Rupert, you're taking selective cases of Israelis who think that way and extrapolating that as to what the general population or the government think. I have yet to see any conclusive evidence that the goal of the Israeli government is to massacre Palestinians.