Ahlamalek, let's settle on this:

If a racist is signed on the forums, and opens a thread discussing why X is a lesser race/state etc. etc. , he gives reasons and avoids swearing. Many users show why in their opinions as to why he is wrong and agian, no one gets furious and no flaming or stupid posts. Great thread so far IMO. Anyway, the thread kinda dies, but after a week or so the racist poster opens a new thread showing no new evidence to support his argument, or revives his thread for no apparent reason to gain any support or opposition, he will deserve having the thread closed and getting a warning (As I've said, I believe a few warnings ought to be worth a suspension). In cases where the new thread seems to fit the old one (guaranteed that the old one hasn't been innactive for too long), the Mod should merge the threads and notify the poster of that. Most of Mike's posts present new evidence or new aspects to look at why he thinks certain organizations or communities (Which are all of an Arab origin but don't necassarily represent the Arab race) should be stopped/ are anti-semite etc.
Some of them,I admit, should have recieved the Merge drill, another reason for opening this thread I guess

BTW, isn't banning someone from this forum an act of hate towards racists?

In any way, I find it quite debatable to decide whether a post detailing reasons for hate should be considered of hateful nature, just like a slogen of hate for example.

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Originally posted by oDrori BTW, isn't banning someone from this forum an act of hate towards racists?

There is no excuse for racism.. it should not be permitted. i say one warning.. for a racist comment.. then after that banning

who wants to argue with a racist.. obviously their views are flawd and they'll just be spreading propoganda towards their cause

no one likes a racist since they havent a clue what they are talkign about

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit There is no excuse for racism.. it should not be permitted. i say one warning.. for a racist comment.. then after that banning

A racist comment ("Yes, because we know Jews are really contributing to the US" , but not "Yes, because we know Israel is really contributing to the US") - deserves a ban.
Backing up racist claims (It's a historical fact that X have never really developed beyond the use of wooden tools) - Does not deserve a ban.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit who wants to argue with a racist.. obviously their views are flawd and they'll just be spreading propoganda towards their cause

-Who wants to argue with a racist?
We'll see once we've hosted one in our little home, if no one wants to argue with him his comments will be ignored and his threads will quickly die

-OBVIOUSLY their views are flawd
Says who? What's so obvious?

-They'll just be spreading propaganda towards their cause
Isn't that what we all do? As long as they don't post anythink false or misleading, there's no harm in it.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit no one likes a racist since they havent a clue what they are talkign about

Or maybe it's US that have no idea... Can't you see that the way you are treating them is just as bad as they would want to treat "Lesser" groups?

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Originally posted by ahlamalek accorded, I will not judge your values (that I don't share btw). But let say if that same person who voices his racist comments start getting flammed all the time and his threads are just filled with hatred by him/them and by the opposing side. Is this what you wannt to see on this board? If I were a mod, I would ban him/them. We need intelligent debate, not people who can flame better than the others.

My values aren't so bad . I said that the main driving force should be to avoid disruption. IF the racist drives his point in with flaming then yes we should ban him. BUT if he's looking to intelligentely share his views with us and have a discussion, I don't think that warrants a banning. I agree with Odrori that if he is proven wrong or can't continue his argument and CONTINUES to post the same thing over and over again than he should be warned. That's why we need mods who are regulars here who can see that kind of behaviour. If we start banning everyone we perceive as a racist, then we run the risk of limiting our perspectives. I'd rather be open-minded about EVERYTHING and choose what ideas I subscribe to rather than having things filtered out and then presented to me.

Like I said, if that person becomes a disruption, or a flamer they SHOULD get banned. I'm just saying we should at least give them the opportunity to say what's on their mind rather than censoring what they have to say.