I have that as an F#m. The Freza mix.

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Originally posted by Zild I have that as an F#m. The Freza mix.

Thank you.

Just wonderin' what's the ideal way to go around the wheel if you want to slowly build up energy....none of that quick mixing stuff with 4 keycodes up and all that. I mean am I right in thinkin' that clockwise would be uplifting or does it matter at all?

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Originally posted by airmartin Just wonderin' what's the ideal way to go around the wheel if you want to slowly build up energy....none of that quick mixing stuff with 4 keycodes up and all that. I mean am I right in thinkin' that clockwise would be uplifting or does it matter at all?

That's not really a question of the mixes you do but the type of music you play.
Tune selection plays a much bigger part in that than the actual keys.

There is no particular way but have a go at going down the numbers, but think more about the music you are playing. This isn't the only way you can do it but you seriously have to be more focused on the music than that actual way in which you mix harmonically to do that.


Keep an open mind to what energy is as well as you will sometimes find that you feel a track just rocks, but you play it at the wrong time or to the wrong crowd and it will flop. Although it is important to understand what makes you feel less and more energetic first.

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I played a perfect harmonic set last night and crowd pretty much hated it. Oh well. I guess they only love the big TOONZ lol. Fuck them I say.

Anyway back to my question I have a track that could be either
A minor or A major. They sound so very close but how can i tell them apart. Also using the camelot system A minor is 8A and 11B since accordig to the wheel they are not compatible so is it really important to get it right or does A minor go with something that A major can too?

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Originally posted by 996vtwin I played a perfect harmonic set last night and crowd pretty much hated it. Oh well. I guess they only love the big TOONZ lol. Fuck them I say. Anyway back to my question I have a track that could be either A minor or A major. They sound so very close but how can i tell them apart. Also using the camelot system A minor is 8A and 11B since accordig to the wheel they are not compatible so is it really important to get it right or does A minor go with something that A major can too?

Some electronica tracks are so melodically challenged that they could be considered A-Minor or A-Major with equal validity. Such tracks usually have just one or two indentifiable tones, but no real melody. They have "no third," which is essential is distinguishing between an A-Major and an A-Minor.

When mixing tracks with actual melody, an A-Major and an A-Minor have different
mix regions. An A-Major, as a 4B, can mix into keycodes 3 to 5. An A-Minor, as an 8A, can mix into keycodes 7 through 9. They have no common ground.

BTW: With proper planning, a modulation mix is often useful between an A-Major and an A-Minor, for example. This advanced technique is covered in our basic harmonic mixing website.

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thanks. so to distinguish whether it is A minor (8A) or A major (11B) I can use the piano lets say on rapid evolution software which is quite accurate and try to get to where the melody is and play an octave higher? Because the intro part with the base or kick both sound quite similiar.

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Originally posted by 996vtwin thanks. so to distinguish whether it is A minor (8A) or A major (11B) I can use the piano lets say on rapid evolution software which is quite accurate and try to get to where the melody is and play an octave higher? Because the intro part with the base or kick both sound quite similiar.

You might wish to pose that question on the [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
website. Have you used key detection software?

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hey everybody!

wow i can't believe this thread is STILL going ;-) but i'm glad to see so much interest in harmonic mixing...

just wanted to mention that i've been improving online harmonic/key database on mixshare.com so you can now add songs again over the web. there have been over 600,000 submissions to date, so there's a lot of info there!

feedback is appreciated (for best response please post on the mixshare forum).. one of my main focuses is cleaning up all the data and merging duplicate songs that people have entered in different ways, but it still should be a good way place for people to check for key info.

Hey Qualia I love your program and your harmonic mixing software has changed the way i listen and play music. Your program seems to have have the best key detection since I compare it to mixed in key. I did have a bit of problems installing it but after changing the .zip file to .jar all went well. There should be a tutorial on this since your newest version is not offered on the launcher link. Goodluck and thanks.

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You will need knowledge of twelve major and minor chords (24 in total). For Trance music however you will find that the majority of music is in minor keys. The reason being that it is believed that minor keys generally convey more emotion (Or so they say). Cheers Nem

You can get around having to learn the 24 chords by using the Rapid Evoluton 2 Piano. If you click on piano>single note you should be able to pick from "Single Note", "Minor", and "Major".