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Originally posted by Member of X They already said the Blazers will buy out Steve Francis' contract and he'll never play for them. It's a salary cap move that will make them 29 million under the cap in 2 years. They should have got more but there is another trade in the works that Pritchard talked about last night for a small forward. They also get James Jones from Phoenix in that trade. That's not the other deal I think. They can't announce that other deal for 7-10 days per NBA rules.

Even for a salary cap move it stinks.
A Salary cap move is trading Z-bo for a 1 year expiring contract or 2 players worth 5 mil' and one of them is going home after 1 season etc...

Z-bo is a 20 and 10 guy, you just dont give away this kind of guys for a box of jojos, its like the Pacers will give away Jermaine O'neal for Ryan Gomes and Ratliff.

Its was a pure Marketing move, selling the Blazers as a clean team which says no to drugs and guns. There was no real urgancy in sending Randolph, he's not even at Oden's Spot.
There are alot of trade Rumors going down...The Lakers,WOLVES And a ton of other teams were trains to jump on.

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Originally posted by Viber Even for a salary cap move it stinks. A Salary cap move is trading Z-bo for a 1 year expiring contract or 2 players worth 5 mil' and one of them is going home after 1 season etc... Z-bo is a 20 and 10 guy, you just dont give away this kind of guys for a box of jojos, its like the Pacers will give away Jermaine O'neal for Ryan Gomes and Ratliff. Its was a pure Marketing move, selling the Blazers as a clean team which says no to drugs and guns. There was no real urgancy in sending Randolph, he's not even at Oden's Spot. There are alot of trade Rumors going down...The Lakers,WOLVES And a ton of other teams were trains to jump on.

don't you guys have Aldridge and Oden????

so wtf is the problem... now both guys can be in the starting 5...

I love the move just because it could make the Knicks better, and we need more WEST teams giving up their best players to the EAST!

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Originally posted by King Ecnal don't you guys have Aldridge and Oden???? so wtf is the problem... now both guys can be in the starting 5... I love the move just because it could make the Knicks better, and we need more WEST teams giving up their best players to the EAST!

The Problem is we need A SF\SG really bad and we cant afford to give Randolph for something that "low".

And you Should hate the trade because it helps the Knicks lol, thats like me getting happy to see Golden State,Seattle,Denver and New Orleans getting stronger.
As a Celtics fan you need to hate the Knicks.

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Originally posted by Viber And you Should hate the trade because it helps the Knicks lol, thats like me getting happy to see Golden State,Seattle,Denver and New Orleans getting stronger. As a Celtics fan you need to hate the Knicks.

not at all... I feel bad for the Knicks... I always cheered for Ewing and the Knicks when they played the Bulls... sounds weird saying it now... but the Bulls were like EVIL to me when I was growing up... anyway

and right now... I don't hate any team in the east, cause theres no reason to, because they all suck equally, except for Detroit... but... if I was worried, I'd hate... but I can't... so....

and FYI, I haven't been a Celtics fan since they traded Toine... and I don't think I'm coming back... still deliberating...

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Originally posted by Viber Even for a salary cap move it stinks. A Salary cap move is trading Z-bo for a 1 year expiring contract or 2 players worth 5 mil' and one of them is going home after 1 season etc... Z-bo is a 20 and 10 guy, you just dont give away this kind of guys for a box of jojos, its like the Pacers will give away Jermaine O'neal for Ryan Gomes and Ratliff. Its was a pure Marketing move, selling the Blazers as a clean team which says no to drugs and guns. There was no real urgancy in sending Randolph, he's not even at Oden's Spot. There are alot of trade Rumors going down...The Lakers,WOLVES And a ton of other teams were trains to jump on.

I'm always curious how I write two times in the previous pages that the trade was horrible but somehow someone argues with me like I'm saying that it was a good trade. I'm just saying that Francis will never play for the Blazers like you mentioned.

HOWEVER, we just did get Greg Oden one of the best prospects in the last 10 years. Plus, the same GM got Brandon Roy, Aldridge, and Sergio Rodriguez last year. Plus got some great value in Rudy Fernandez, Josh McRoberts, and Taureen Green in this draft. I agee should have got more for Zach but I still think Pritchard is a great GM. One of the best! He deserves some slack for what he accomplished in the last 2 drafts, both of which are graded by the experts as the best. So please.....STOP BEING SO GREEDY! Blazers soon will be serious contenders!

Lastly, there is other trades in the hopper that might make more sense of the Zach trade. And free agent signings. So we shall see and can give a fair review after the summer.

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Originally posted by King Ecnal and FYI, I haven't been a Celtics fan since they traded Toine... and I don't think I'm coming back... still deliberating...

umm both the Knicks and the celtics will compete for the 8th seed in the east so you better start hatin' on the mofo's

And youre reason for stop being a fan is kinda funny IMO, Its like me stoping to cheer for the blazers just bcz theyve traded Bonzi Wells a few years back (except bonzi is better than Walker)

Oh and Member of X: i didnt argue with you,i didnt say you are wrong or something i just stated that it was a sucky salary cap move and not a good one.
And im so greedy because i want them to kick the spurs ass ASAP.

Notice how the spurs had another steal in the draft btw?
these guys caught Tiaggo Splitter at like the 27th pick...he was among the top 10 projected picks for a few years now,great player.

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Originally posted by Member of X I'm always curious how I write two times in the previous pages that the trade was horrible but somehow someone argues with me like I'm saying that it was a good trade. I'm just saying that Francis will never play for the Blazers like you mentioned. HOWEVER, we just did get Greg Oden one of the best prospects in the last 10 years. Plus, the same GM got Brandon Roy, Aldridge, and Sergio Rodriguez last year. Plus got some great value in Rudy Fernandez, Josh McRoberts, and Taureen Green in this draft. I agee should have got more for Zach but I still think Pritchard is a great GM. One of the best! He deserves some slack for what he accomplished in the last 2 drafts, both of which are graded by the experts as the best. So please.....STOP BEING SO GREEDY! Blazers soon will be serious contenders! Lastly, there is other trades in the hopper that might make more sense of the Zach trade. And free agent signings. So we shall see and can give a fair review after the summer.

Portland didn't get more for Randolph because Randolph is a nutcase.
Randolph in New York? It's going to be crazy. (fun games on the court, fun drama off the court?)

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Viber (except bonzi is better than Walker)

LOL

oh wow... I needed a good laugh... thank you

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Originally posted by EvilTree Portland didn't get more for Randolph because Randolph is a nutcase. Randolph in New York? It's going to be crazy. (fun games on the court, fun drama off the court?)

Agreed, the GM claims it was the best offer of 5. There is a backend to the trade I guess that we'll know within a week or so. Some claim it's just James Jones to Portland but others claim it's something else. Like dumping Darius Miles on the Knicks. That's the hot rumor and that would make up the bad. That's why I want to wait to see how the dust settles before I review the trade. So far, it was peanuts but yeah...Zach is a freaking nutjob and many GM's were scared of him.

Bonzi sucks. He was one of the Jail Blazer douche bags. Was pretty happy to see him gone. None more happy than RaWeed Wallace though.

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2 big news coming today.

1. greg oden signs with portland, and is expected to team up with aldridge and sergio rodriguez in the summer league team. sweet jesus! what kind of team is that? smart move by oden. this is what i love about the nba over nfl sometimes. the top draft picks in the nba don't play holdout, and ask for a lot of money. they just want to come out and play.

2. rashard lewis is expected to sign with the orlando magic on july 11. that is a big surprise. both allen and lewis jetting off to different teams. wouldn't be surprised if lewis pulls a billy donovan though ..........

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Originally posted by King Ecnal LOL oh wow... I needed a good laugh... thank you

Walker for threeeeeeeeeeeee annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd no ANOTHER MISS! " what a piece of shit he is Bob! - i agree Marv, Walker is indeed useless".

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Originally posted by Viber Walker for threeeeeeeeeeeee annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd no ANOTHER MISS! " what a piece of shit he is Bob! - i agree Marv, Walker is indeed useless".

ok now i'm not kidding around... don't you talk about my Toine like that, bitch!

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