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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
this is what i love about the nba over nfl sometimes. the top draft picks in the nba don't play holdout, and ask for a lot of money. they just want to come out and play.


that's because nfl players have a lot more at stake. If they're lucky, they might sign 2-3 contracts ever, the risk of career-ending injuries is FAR greater, and with the much larger talent pool, it's a lot less of a certainty that even those top picks will be around for long (especially with contracts that aren't guaranteed, making players easily disposable).

Add that to the fact that nfl contracts are usually absurdly back-loaded, making the likelihood that you'll get all the money even less likely, and that the base salary and career length are both less for NFL players than for those in the NBA, and throw in all the additional free agency restrictions in the NFL, and it's hard to attack any of those guys for the holdouts. Granted, it's still a game, and they're still making more than over 99% of the population, but the "yeah, but you can afford it" argument has always been foolish.

With all that in mind, it's pretty damn hard to criticize the NFL guys for the contract disputes. Yes, it's irritating, but it's understandable.

Now, back to the draft for a moment (specifically my Chicago-centric take on it). Jordan is nearing the Isiah Thomas realm of decision-making, and I almost cried when the Bulls made their first pick. Noah is so obnoxious, so immature, so self-centered, and so confrontational that I just can't see anything good coming from this. He just seems like T.O. without the incredible skill set and charisma. His personality is about as appealing as a vomit-covered fruit cake, and it's being delivered to a team that might be more closely represented by a well planned 7-course meal. If Ben Wallace was not on the team to be there to just smack the kid into shape if he gets out of line, I would be signing off on this as the beginning of the downfall, but I'm going to cling onto that small shred of hope.


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Now, back to the draft for a moment (specifically my Chicago-centric take on it). Jordan is nearing the Isiah Thomas realm of decision-making, and I almost cried when the Bulls made their first pick. Noah is so obnoxious, so immature, so self-centered, and so confrontational that I just can't see anything good coming from this. He just seems like T.O. without the incredible skill set and charisma. His personality is about as appealing as a vomit-covered fruit cake, and it's being delivered to a team that might be more closely represented by a well planned 7-course meal. If Ben Wallace was not on the team to be there to just smack the kid into shape if he gets out of line, I would be signing off on this as the beginning of the downfall, but I'm going to cling onto that small shred of hope.


as long as paxson has isiah on speed dial, there is always a glimmer of hope


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lol


unfortunately, I almost wish we hadn't gotten that pick.

not quite, though, just because it meant laughing at Isiah for a year, which is priceless.


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this is the first time the Celtics mattered since 2002.

well really when Reggie Lewis was alive


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this is the first time the Celtics mattered since 2002.

well really when Reggie Lewis was alive


send this to Sports Random .......


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Celtics are at least relevant now. They could make the finals I guess but geeze they sure are injury risks. They have absolutely no depth and Rajon Rondo is not a starting PG now. They have to get a few more role players! Their lifespan is like 2-3 years but at least that's better than a 0% chance that was before the 2 big trades. Just see how Allen and Pierce were injured for my fantasy team most of last year so I'd be concerned about that.


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sorry, but I've been in a coma since my friend txt'd me that the KG to C's was a DONE DEAL... but I'm back... and back as a Celtics Fan... yeah they gave up a lot, but its KEVIN GARNETT!!!!!!!! Its just a funny feeling knowing Danny Ainge actually made a GOOD move for once... still trying to cope with it... feels so awkward!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'll take 3 championships NOW over Greg Oden, thank you!

fuck Portland, fuck Seattle, they ain't got shit on us, Oden and Durant will be out of both cities when their rook contracts are up... and the C's will pick them up when KG, Allen, and Pierce retire!!!


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I'll take 3 championships NOW over Greg Oden, thank you!


you'll be lucky if you get one.

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the C's will pick them up when KG, Allen, and Pierce retire!!!


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quote:
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sorry, but I've been in a coma since my friend txt'd me that the KG to C's was a DONE DEAL... but I'm back... and back as a Celtics Fan... yeah they gave up a lot, but its KEVIN GARNETT!!!!!!!! Its just a funny feeling knowing Danny Ainge actually made a GOOD move for once... still trying to cope with it... feels so awkward!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'll take 3 championships NOW over Greg Oden, thank you!

fuck Portland, fuck Seattle, they ain't got shit on us, Oden and Durant will be out of both cities when their rook contracts are up... and the C's will pick them up when KG, Allen, and Pierce retire!!!

I love delusional people. They are so entertaining.


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not true. i say "ugh"
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lol colour me retarded

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like i said in the other thread. good trade by boston. might as well think about "now", instead of the "future", because the past 2 years thinking about "the future" didn't pan well. if all goes well, in the next 3 years, i expect at least 2 eastern conference finals appearances, and at least 1 nba finals appearance. if they win the whole enchilada, i wouldn't be surprised. a pierce, garnett, and allen combination is a damn good team.


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It really depends on whether Boston can put together a decent bench.

Ray Allen isn't exactly injury free.


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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
like i said in the other thread. good trade by boston. might as well think about "now", instead of the "future", because the past 2 years thinking about "the future" didn't pan well. if all goes well, in the next 3 years, i expect at least 2 eastern conference finals appearances, and at least 1 nba finals appearance. if they win the whole enchilada, i wouldn't be surprised. a pierce, garnett, and allen combination is a damn good team.


that's a pretty reasonable assessment. 3 titles, & signing durant & oden, though, is just funny. That would be like saying the Bears are a lock for the next 3 Super Bowls now that they signed Darwin Walker.

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