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phuzzyfish12
phunky phun in 30

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Indio, California
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Sep-06-2005 18:28
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partyhopper
NYTA Senior Citizen

Registered: Mar 2004
Location: All the wrong places
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with tonight's comeback, and beating Rivera in the 9th, those pesky Devil Rays clinched the season series against the Yanks, with a 10-4 advantage
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Sep-07-2005 02:20
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Loving Trance Since 1998

Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA (block from ocean)
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I posted this in the sports discussion but I'd thought to do it here since Shamus is my buddy.
National League Cy Young Race. My opinion:
1. Cris Carpenter
2. Roger Clemens
3. Pedro Martinez
Here's the stats to backup my thinking:
----- IP - ERA - WHIP - WINS - HR Alw - Opponent OPS:
C Car 220 - 2.21 - 0.97 - 21 - 15 - .578
Roger 189 - 1.57 - 0.92 - 11 - 8 - .504
Pedro 195 - 2.95 - 0.92 - 13 - 19 - .578
----- Run Supp - CG - Quality Starts
C Car 5.2 - 7 - 27
Roger 3.6 - 1 - 24
Pedro 5.0 - 3 - 21
Pedro's weakness is clearly the long ball. Roger has quite a bit lower OPS surely attributable to only allowing 8 homers. That's why his ERA is so astronomical, he doesn't give up the big ones. Compare that to Randy Johnson who has given up a whopping 29 HR's. In comparison to history, Roger's ERA is clearly mind boggling! Pedro's run support is actually almost the same as Carpenter but Roger's is clearly worse than all. However, I give the slight nudge to Carpenter over Roger just because he has 7 complete games which is saying to me he doesn't tire his bullpen as much. Plus, he's giving his team longer production of great pitching giving his team more assured wins because it's not left up to the bullpen to decide the game. Lastly, I think Carpenter has been the most consistent start to start as seen with his quality starts. He has one more start than Roger and Pedro but has nearly 3 more games of innings. Again, he eats more innings.
Carpenter is also in first, Houston looks like a strong wild card, and the Mets are in last but that really isn't Pedro's fault but still, a point in talking about valuable to ?
Just my thoughts...

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Sep-09-2005 20:34
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