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| quote: | Originally posted by sifntj0r
you're a fuckhead |
www.dictionary.com, and look up the word maturity. There are several ways to get across to me what you are trying to prove. By starting out calling me a fuckhead is NOT one of them. I shouldn't even have read past that, but I did anyway, to give you the benefit of the doubt. From what I read, I should have just skipped past your whole post b/c.........
| quote: | | , the only form of trance doesnt exist purely as uplifting and melodic, trance can be dark and it can be dirty and it doesnt have to be progressive (read: boring) by being that. |
::slaps forehad: NOOO SHIT!! Did you even READ what I wrote? No, seriously....did you???? I specifically said, and i quote, "I'm not saying have evvvvverrryyy siiinnnggllleeeee song be dreamy, light, fluffy-cloud crap." I fucking agree with you, if you didn't notice. I LIKE dark...I LIKE dirty...I LIKE progressive trance. I have QUITE a good number of these kinds of records in my collection and they don't just sit there...i wear them the fuck out!!!!!!
| quote: | | you're comment, 'stick with what works' precisely points out what everyone has been trying to say. THE SONG IN ITS CURRENT FORM DOESNT STICK WITH WHAT WORKS, THATS WHAT MAKES IT GOOD. |
again, have you read anything in this thread? If you go back, look atthe number of people who said it DOESN'T work as compared to the number of people who think it DOES work. Again...READ.
| quote: | | sorry if some of us are sick and fucking tired of happy happy joy joy im high on emotional trance that makes me cry like a fucking baby. |
Yet again, something you and I agree on. I'm glad that Tiesto and others are getting a little darker and progressive. Change is good, and if you would have read what I posted in that thread (the link I provided, but yet you must have skipped that too) about people bashing Tiesto, change is in most cases NEEDED and INEVITABLE for an artist to become 'complete.' I'm all for change, and is that is towards a more progressive sound, fine by me!!!!!!
| quote: | | if you have listened to recent tiesto work you would know his style has been going darker and darker, going away from uplifting melodic, as he has said himself numerous times in interviews, that style is becoming overused and stale. take a look at conjure one - tears from the moon (tiesto's isos mix) and you'll see trance doesnt have to be light airy fairy uplifting with soft or whiney female vocals. it can be dark and powerful. |
Holy shit, we agreee AGAIN. And yet again, you prove that you don't knwow what the fuck you are talking about. Why, when I write "he produces the Dutch sound' do you automatically assume I am talking about floaty airy shit? Right now, with artists like Fijneman, Tiesto, Impact, etc and others from the black-Hole label and beyond, their styule is RIGHT ON as far as I'm concerned. They have evolved the Dutch sound to something less airy and floaty into something powerful and intense....dirtier and darker. So don't fucking assume when I say 'the Dutch sound" i am talking about happy go-go crap. In fact, I have the Nettwerk release with the Hybrid and ISOS mix on the flip. I often use the Hybrid mix to start a set, or come with the ISOS mix later in a set to puncuate things. AGAIN, you and i are in aggreance on these things, not opposites.
| quote: | | who are you to say that her voice doesnt belong in this track or any trance track, its not for you to say. |
Just like it's not for you to say it is the other way around. Again, flawed logic at work. You tell me I can't say what I believe, but yet I am to accept what you say as "the way" ????? Give me a fucking break.
| quote: | | do you even know who the fuck you are talking about here? tiesto. dont you think that if someone, anyone for matter, were to make this work, one of those people would be tiesto? i reckon so. |
UMMMMMMMM, yeah, I think I know we're talking about Tiesto. he happens to be my favorite DJ AND Producer of all-time, so yeah, I think it's safe to say that I know who the fuck he is and what he's capable of. Listen to me here though, ok.....look carefully, b/c i don't want you not reading things again. Until I have the studio version to work with to prove me wrong, I stand by MY OPINION that her voice doesn't go well in this track. The key fucking words in that sentence are "my opinion." I love tiesto as much, if not more than the next guy, but what the fuck doesn't give me the right to say "from what I heard in this sample, it sounds like garbage."???? The track itself is the fucking shi, from what I can hear. The energy alone it creates sounds fucking amazing. I just wish that Rain wasn't singing over the track. AGAIN, you prove that you must not have read what i wrote, b/c the last thing I wrote was that "I'll wait for the dub." And until that time, I will continue to say her vocals are crap on top of this song.
| quote: | | how can you say her voice just doesnt go with this track, when the only version you have is badly mixed (between track and live vocals), has an absolutely shitload of crowd noise and is only 5 minutes long? thats an ill-informed opinion if i've ever seen one. |
Again, the reason HOW I can say her voice doesn't go with this track is the same reason I can whatever the fuck I want about ANYTHING....BECAUSE IT IS MY OPINION, and EVERYONE is entitled to MY opinion  As far as the BASIS of forming that opinion, I think you answered it with track quality, badly mixed, crowd noise, etc. Do I need to state the obvious again? Again, read me carfeully here, ok????? I think the track itself is amazing, but i am going to have to wait for the studio version tocome out to give a more solid review of the way rain's vocals go with this track. SHit, i even fuckig apologized for giving such a harsh review on such a poor quality recording. What more do you want me to fucking say????
| quote: | | the track, from the tmf sample/rip i have, absolutely rocks. almost everything (in terms of elements) sounds quality, unfortunately the actual quality of sound from the recording isnt great, but it still is on repeat for me. |
Great, that is your opinion and I at least respect it. Wish I got the same treatemtn from you. Again, I don't agree with what you say, but i at least respect it, but.........
| quote: | | take a seat son, dont make me come back and thoroughly hammer your next post with a horde of quotes. |
I don't fucking respect this. You didn't thouroughly hammer shit. Well, maybe one thing you did hammer....the fact that you can't, or didn't want, to fucking read what I wrote. I have provided you with so much overwhelming evidence to contradict things you said about me and questioned me on that you obviously and rather blatantly overlooked, it's scary. Here's some advice for you....Next time you want to reply like you did to my posts, read them thouroughly and then think before you actually type shit out, b/c if you don't, that's exactly what you'll write.
Now, let's review what I've said in this post, just in case you like to skip everything over, ok?????
1) www.dictionary.com, and look up the word "maturity"
2) You have to actually read what people write b4 u respond to it
3) Think before you write
4) You = 0nWed
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PEAS,
~*Drew*~
Last edited by ne1seenmykeys on Apr-22-2003 at 20:27
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W ,, i luv the track and the great build up in the beginning, cant wait to hear the non live version though,,, i wasnt really particularly interested with the vocals...doeas anyone know if there is a non vocals version of the song????????,, i just want to hear the track
I see a liking here!
