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Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 PvD has no right to bash them, his productions aren't award winning

i think all trance dj's/artists should have the right to bash all other genre artists. j/k.

to every "true trance listener", just shut up,
dj sammy never claimed that he was making trance music (as far as i know). he makes as someone else said commercial club music, and it works on charts & bit on the dancefloors.
(this also counts to all the other commercial club acts like lasgo, flip & fill.....)

however imo ivd is trance-act, maybe full-on commercial but still, listen to a.c.e. sampler, there you have 3 ivd tracks that's not so full-on commercial and rocks. imo ivd is not worse than svenson & gielen or voodoo & serano. s&g & v&d is very borderline to me, some songs sound very cheesy and is only saved by the artists credibility.

and i'm tired of threads bashing commercial acts, i would love you start a thread where you bash tiesto, three drives, armin, mike, pvd, ferry...(every "true trance act/artist"), for adding vocals to a track and making a radio edit & making a video for the song, but then all hell would break loose.

my point is that why are you judging the commercial acts, when the "non-commercial" are somewhat worse sometimes. if you don't like it, ignore it, it will go away eventually.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit darude along with js 16 (similar sounds) have produced incredible tracks and remixes, and these tracks have also gone mainstream. I think people just like to bash trance when it becomes popular. its all personal preference.. if you dont like it dont listen

nah... people like to bash dj sammy, and ivd, cause it makes you look cool when you flame them and call everyone who likes them a noob...

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I disrespect PVD for saying this. Everyone is making his own music and i respect that. If i don't like a certain artist then i just don't listen to him/her. This sort of bashing bu PVD is not needed at all. It will only be negative to his position as a 'good' dj.

dj sammy has produced gr8 traxx...indisputably ..and castles in the sky by ivd was nice as well

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Originally posted by tiesto14 And who is PVD to say country and/or western is bad?....the day PVD can sell a 1/4 of the amount of CDs that artists like Garth Brooks or Willie Nelson sell, or the day he can FILL...not half capacity...but FILL stadiums of 50,000 people with music HE personally produced...well then that is the day PVD can talk shit about country and/or western music... I am not a country fan...but PVD has some nerve to be so prentious to think he is in some way better then those artists that have been selling 10s of millions of CDs on their own with their own material for decades and he has sold what? MAYBE a million and a half CDs in his entire career with half the tracks not even his own productions...please can anyone say elitist?

this is fucked up. why would you fucking argue about what pvd said about country? i can't stand country music and it's really one of worst forms of music that emerged in my opinion. if you don't think so, congrats, but it doesnt make pvd pretentious. he is just being honest. what does this have to do with being elitist? comparing the audience of a country musician to the audience of a big producer/DJ like PvD is ridiculous. country music has its own very specific audience. that audience is not an audience sought out by any dj! and pvd is a big name in the electronic dance music world...a relatively unknown scene. it's all relative.

sales are nothing to go by as to whether a musician is talented. that describes popularity and mass opinion (if you are on this board and bother to discuss on this forum, i don't think you could agree with such opinions so why would this even matter?

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Originally posted by Divine9 I disrespect PVD for saying this. Everyone is making his own music and i respect that. If i don't like a certain artist then i just don't listen to him/her. This sort of bashing bu PVD is not needed at all. It will only be negative to his position as a 'good' dj.

Hey Divine, Nicely said. How can somebody who is aready such a popular guy get "jealous" over some kid promoting his own style of music. We have the rights to like which kind of artist, I don't see Ian Van Dahl and DJ Sammy disrespect other trance artist.

For that, I give Paul Van Dyk a thumbs down, Seriously I do like Paul van dyk's production like For an angel or collaborate with BT making Namistai and even his remixes like Age Of Love, but now i have a second thought about weather to buy his vinyls.

i dont think pvd bashed anyone.
to say that two particular artists who redundantly make superficial music and misrepresent talented artists labelled Trance are cheese, is justified. it is no wonder that pvd doesnt say he is a trance dj or producer. because this word is not represented by a pure thing any more. it represents a lot of music that is out there for a completely different reason lacking the intensity that comes from a well-done, dedicated piece of music that captures a feeling created by the artist. if you are a hard working producer who makes more than superficial music and consider your style of music a form of art, you would not want to be classified as the same as those that make music for other unrelated reasons. to refer to this as cheese is only fair.

just like in the world of other music... there are good rock bands and shitty, commercial ones. the difference is, paul van dyk is a musician in a scene that is known only to those that follow it. that would be me and you. but most people are not. and trance is not well known to most, it is not on the same level as rock. if music is your language and you want to share it with the world, you must distinguish it from that which is not a pure form.

I'm having trouble distinguishing what exactly was said by PvD and was was said by the writer of the article. Anyone got a the mag in front of them that knows how quotes work?

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Originally posted by brian He does bring up a great point, though, in that trance is quite different than most of van Dahl's and Sammy's work. It's too bad that people consider these to be largely trance artists.

Totally agreed.People dont know the difference between trance and eurodance.PvD wanted to state this in a bad way if you describe something cheese so dont play in your sets how ironic !


Paul van Dyk @ CREAM AMNESIA 21-08-2003
1.Digital Pressure - Aftershokk
2.Terry Bones vs Fred Baker - Introspection (John Askew Mix)
3.Paul van Dyk vs Second Sun - Crush (Vandit Dub)
4.Modulation - Spirits (Cosmicman Remix)
5.Paul van Dyk f/Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives (PvD Club Mix)
6.Westbam - Right On (Deutschmann Remix) (Paul van Dyk Edit)
7.Reeloop - Fucking Society (Instrumental)
8.Dj Tiesto - Traffic (Original Mix)
9.Dave Clarke - Wisdom To The Wise
10.Rafferty and Kershaw - We Are Connected (Marcos pres. Sunfire Remix)
11.DJ Arabesque vs Jakyro - Strance (Jakyro Mix)
12.Appendix E - Man Of God
13.Nalin and Kane - Beachball (Gabriel and Dresden's South Beach Vacation Mix)
14.Paul van Dyk f/Hemstock and Jennings - Nothing But You (Vandit Club Mix)
15.Klea - Tic Toc (PvD Re-edit)
16.ID - 'Do You Wanna Get High'
17.Bizarre Inc. - Playing With Knives (Remix)
18.Paul van Dyk - ?? (Nature One Track 4)
19.Rank 1 - Airwave 2003 (Breathing) (Breaks Vocal Mix)
20.Masters and Nickson - 5th Dimension (Instrumental)
21.Hitch Hiker p/Lunatic Asylum - Cabal (Energy Flow)
22.James Holden - Nothing (Returning 93 Mix)
23.Donald and Giles- Weekend Wonder (D&G Mix)
24.Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Sweeping Strings Remix)
25.Sasha - Wavy Gravy (Paul van Dyk Remix)
26.Modulation - Spirits (Slusnik Luna Remix)
27.Ralphie B - Massive (PvD TPOD Rework)
28.14th Street - Trippin' Children
29.Dick van Nille - Outside
30.PvD vs. Marco V - For A Revolt
31.Mainx - 88 to Piano (PvD Rework)
32.Paul van Dyk feat. Jan Johnston - Spellbound
33.Kyau vs Albert - Velvet Morning (Mirco de Govia Mix / PvD Edit)
34.DJ Sammy DP - Sunlight (Sunset remix)
35.Ascension - For A Lifetime (Ascension Dub)
36.Terry Bones vs Fred Baker - Introspection (John Askew Mix)
37.Chicane - Autumn Tactics (Thrillseekers Remix)
Encore 1
38.Paul van Dyk f/Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives (PvD Club Mix)
Encore 2
39.Ruff Driverz p/Arrola - Dreaming (Percussion Mix)



Paul van DYk @ Collumbiahalle, The Love From Above 11th of July 2003
Holden & Thompson - Nothing (Returning Mix)
Paul van Dyk feat. Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives (Paul van Dyk Remix)
Nalin & Kane - Beachball (Oliver Moldan Remix?)
Hatrixx - Miss You
Goldenscan - Of Our Times (Remix?)
Andrea Doria - Bucci Bag
Nu-NRG - Dreamland (Rank 1 Remix)
Nu-NRG - Connective
Pulser - My Religion (Lange Remix)
Robert Miles - Children [Bootleg Version]
Chicane - Saltwater
Terry Bones - IntroSpection
Starchaser - Fallin Star
Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder
Dejure - Sanctuary
Starship - Oriental Express
Sammy - Sunlight [Pulser Remix]
Wellenrausch - On the Run [Morph vs Van Eyden Experience Mix]
Bismark - In my Heart


Paul van Dyk @ Soundgarden 9th of July 2003
01 Liquid - Sweet Harmony
02 Frankie Knuckles - Your Love [Lys & Gigi Rework 2003]
03 BT - Somnambulist
04 Delirium - After All [Satoshi Tomiie Remix]
05 DJ Icey - Beyond
06 Love Commitee - Love Rules
07 Jaron Inc - Overflow
08 Pulser - My Religion [Lange Remix]
09 Pedro del Mar - Mariella
10 Cola vs. Basta da Rhymes - White Label
11 Starchaser - Falling Star [Remix]
12 AJP - Summerwave
13 Nalin & Kane - Beachball [Oliver Moldan Remix]
14 Holden & Thompson - Nothing [Returning 93 Mix]
15 Kuffdam & Plant - Balearic
16 Observer - Radioactivität
17 Starship - Oriental Express
18 DJ Sammy - Sunlight [Pulser Remix]
19 Dejure - Sanctuary
20 Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder
21 DJ HMC - Com On
22 Mal Black - Funk System
23 Final One - I need your lovin [Time Lord Remix]

Paul van Dyk @ Celtral Park 8/28/03
Donald & Giles - Weekend Wonder (Donald & Giles Remix)
Phil Green - Tribal Trance
Chris Liebing - Natural Selection
DJ Tiesto - Traffic (Original Mix)
Paul van Dyk Vs. Marco V - For a Revolt
Paul van Dyk - Different Journey to Vega
Second Sun - Empire (Paul van Dyk Remix)
Sasha - Wavy Gravy (Paul van Dyk Rework)
Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Sweeping Strings Mix)
Ralphie B - Massive (Paul van Dyk Rework)
Paul van Dyk Feat. Jan Johnston - Spellbound
ID
ID
Bizarre Inc - Playing With Knives (Remix)
DJ Sammy - Sunlight (Sunset Remix)
Mat Silver Vs. Tony Burt - Ultimate Wave (Paul van Dyk Rework)
ID - PvD Production
Nick Rafferty & Paul Kershaw - We Are Connected (Marcos Pres. Sunfire Remix)
Jaron Inc - Overflow
Nu Nrg - Dreamland
Magenta - Twisted Soul
Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (E-Werk Club Mix)
Paul van Dyk Feat. Vega 4 - Time Of Our Lives (Paul van Dyk Club Mix)
Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You (Paul's 'Original' Mix)

Paul van DYK @ Roxy 11-04-2002
Mauro Picotto - Taub
Veit - Sky (Magik Muzik Dub)
Pulser - Cloudwalking (Beat Pushers Mix)
Viframa - Cristalle (DJ Precision meets Katana Mix)
Paul van Dyk - Nothing But You
Atrium - Golden (J`ubio Remix)
Katoi - Touch You (Ralphie B Mix)
Paul van Dyk - Step Right On
Paul van Dyk - Forbidden Fruit
Paul van Dyk vs. Delerium - Silent Angel
PvD - For an Angel (Hell Side Mighty Dub)
PvD & Jan Johnston - I Don`t Care
Paul van Dyk - Out There
PvD - Another Way
PvD - Tell Me Why (Vandit Mix Re-Edit)
PvD - Together We Will Conquer
Marco V - I Feel You (PvD Mix)
Solid Sleep - Club Attack (PvD Mix)
Rapid Eye - Circa Forever (R.E.Mix)
Second Wave - Spectrum
Sun Decade - I`m Alone (Ronski Speed Mix)
Sasha - Wavy Gravy (PvD Mix)
Klea - Tic Toc (PvD Re-Edit)
Cygnus X - Superstrings (Rank 1 Deep Dub Mix)
Spacefrog - Follow Me (PvD Cut)
Reeloop - Fucking Society (PvD Cut)
Second Sun - The Spell
P.O.S. - Remember
Nu-NRG - Supersonic (PvD Edit)
Emmanuel Top - Turkish Bazar (Reeloop Mix)
Conjure One - Sleep (Ian van Dahl Mix)
Umek - Gatex
Blank & Jones - Suburban Hell
Blank & Jones - Watching The Waves
Fichespooner - The 15th (Sono Mix)
Tillmann Uhrmacher - Friends
Rivera Grooves - Funk A-Tron
Rockik - Memories (Robbie Rivera's Juicy Dub)
Age of Love - Age of Love (Mr Sams Remix)
Lustral - Broken (Way Out West Mix)

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Originally posted by Karen Simon what it was always meant to be - fucking good dancefloor music that messes with your head.

not even close...