Originally posted by Cyrus King
When they found out she was Iranian... they questioned her....even though she whas been living in Canada all her life.
Well, then that's profiling based on nationality, not race.
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Feb-01-2004 15:11
Cyrus King
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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Well, then that's profiling based on nationality, not race.
Her nationality is Canadian. Her race is Iranian. There is only one nation that represents the persian race, and that is Iran.
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Feb-01-2004 19:12
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Her nationality is Canadian. Her race is Iranian. There is only one nation that represents the persian race, and that is Iran.
But you said she doesn't look middle-eastern. So if they found out she was Iranian by descent, wouldn't that mean that they'd already started to question her before finding that out? I mean, I *do* look middle-eastern, but I've never been questioned about my descent?
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Feb-01-2004 19:22
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its not that hard to understand people.
They found out her parents were IRanian, so they proceeded to question her and make her miss her flight.
She may not look it, but once they found middle eastern blood running through her veins, they had to know more about her.
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Feb-01-2004 19:26
DigiNut
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
its not that hard to understand people.
They found out her parents were IRanian, so they proceeded to question her and make her miss her flight.
She may not look it, but once they found middle eastern blood running through her veins, they had to know more about her.
Yes, but in order to find out that her parents were Iranian, they must have already been questioning/looking up information on her, no?
I've never been asked about my parents at a border. You're assuming that they questioned her because her parents were Iranian but I'm saying that they would have already had to have pre-existing motivation to question her in order to find that out...
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Feb-01-2004 19:33
Cyrus King
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Originally posted by DigiNut
Yes, but in order to find out that her parents were Iranian, they must have already been questioning/looking up information on her, no?
I've never been asked about my parents at a border. You're assuming that they questioned her because her parents were Iranian but I'm saying that they would have already had to have pre-existing motivation to question her in order to find that out...
The guy was an asshole. I dont know what he was looking for, but he certainly wanted to bother her once he found out her ethnic origin.
Some of these people are just Nosey and think they can ask any questions they want. Youd be surprised.
Ive never been pulled over at the border either, but im sure if i got an asshole like the one my sister did, i would have trouble too.
The point im trying to make is that they racially profile. If you are middle eastern in decent, and you were born in North AMmerica, you are still going to have problems.
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Feb-01-2004 19:41
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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Her nationality is Canadian. Her race is Iranian. There is only one nation that represents the persian race, and that is Iran.
Just a sidenote because I am curious. Did Persia also include Afghanistan? I am saying this because I have an Afghani friend who we casually refer to as Persian sometimes but I always thought we were being grossly inaccurate.
Feb-01-2004 19:55
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Originally posted by razmataz
Just a sidenote because I am curious. Did Persia also include Afghanistan? I am saying this because I have an Afghani friend who we casually refer to as Persian sometimes but I always thought we were being grossly inaccurate.
Afghans are not persian. But the empire might have stretched around that area hundreds of years ago.
Many afghans here is Toronto claim to be persian, but they are wrong.
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Feb-01-2004 19:58
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