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DJelusive
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Oslo

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Ok sure, I've posted lots of commentary on Moore over the years.

My original criticisms began with bowling:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...el&pagenumber=1

They then spawned off into other areas as I read more news items on him:

Criticisms of him being hypocritical in what he preaches and what he does:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ore#post2057282

My criticisms of some of the stuff he has penned:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ore#post1903844

An article that I read that touches up upon his career works as a whole:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ore#post1689714

Some of my criticisms with respect to the whole disney affair:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ore#post2731283



I hope you don't mind reading. Hmmm in retrospect, I've wasted a lot of time doing research on a guy I despise.



Holy shit! That was you?!?
In that case, congrats on a job well done!
I've read your work some time ago, and it definately puts Bowling For Columbine in a very, very bad light.

Michael Moore should know his limits, and he should understand that he too, as well as his arch enemy Bush, is helping provoke and stir-up opinion based on half-truths, and thereby not being any better than Bush himself.

And about the Cannes award, the jury holds men and women strongly against the war (Sean Penn anyone?), and ofcourse this is the reason for him winning this prize. The Cannes film festival winners have always been movies that are true to the art of film-making. If you win that price, it is because your film has a certain art value. I havent seen Fahrenheit, but I doubt it is good at acting, costumes, set locations etc. The only reason it won is because it will help fight a Bush re-election. (thereby the release dates both in cinema and later on DVD)

I'm from Norway, and I honestly don't understand how American's do not ask for the truth over there. It seems like your freedom of speach, that it seems film-makers think you are alone with while 90% of the world consists of free democratic contries, works against you sometimes. It seems like there is utter crap propaganda coming from both left and right wingers over there.

Basically, one do not make one lie go away by telling another lie.
And Michael Moore should know and see, that his propaganda does nothing but help the US-bashers rather than help it go away.

I will see the movie, but I will also read and draw my own conclusions. I will not let my final opinion be distracted by a man that is known for twisting the truth to suit his own cause.


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DJelusive
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Edit: I was not responding to the Tranceaddict threads, but:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/


and then

http://www.hardylaw.net/replytomoore.html

And, if you have not read it yet, I urge you to do so.


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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
are you implying that everyone else supports bush?


No..good try though, I am not implying anything, just read the sentence, everything does not have a hidden meaning, i meant what I said, but you're question as to what i'm implying makes it clear to me why a movie like this would tickle your fancy...

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Movie is good, throws some very good points, and unfolds the dark side of Bush to light.. Not like I didnt know, but, its different to see all the connections and facts.. some parts are extremes, but, with factual facts. Go see the movie.


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CityKitty
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Long Island, New York

Michael Moore's documentary, which I just saw 2 days ago, is a movie I have been waiting for ever since George Bush jr. became president.

The movie was carefully scrutinized prior to it's release, so there is nothing said that isn't untrue. It's about time someone stood up for the truth, even though it may be difficult to accept.

Let's be honest here:

No one wants a liar for a president, and no one wants to look at the "leader of the country" as an il-fitted man for office. That's why I think a lot of people are having a hard time with this movie. Michael Moore is stirring the public, getting under their skin maybe. His enthusiasm is on screen for everyone to criticize and I think he is to be commended, once again, for daring to go there.

I enjoyed the film-and not just because I disagree with our actions in Iraq and the actions (or lack of)on part of the administration prior to the Sept. 11 attacks. I enjoyed it because it was direct, and reminded me of what I felt on Sept. 11th. Not that I wanted to cry all over again, but it's so easy for us all to go back to our lives and not pay attention to what our president decides to do with the fate of our country. I was once again reminded of why I am going to vote in November, which I believe is the most noble motive that Moore has for his film.

I am not here to debate either side, because the truth is there for all to see. I encourage everyone to see the movie, but more importantly to vote. Your votes, not the movie, is what will make the real difference.

~Lauren


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mizzuno
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quote:
Originally posted by CityKitty
Michael Moore's documentary, which I just saw 2 days ago, is a movie I have been waiting for ever since George Bush jr. became president.

The movie was carefully scrutinized prior to it's release, so there is nothing said that isn't untrue.


~Lauren


Uh what are you talking about, most of the movie is factually inaccurate. It was scrutinized by whom? By Moore? By Moveon.org? Its all about agendas here not facts, you don't wanna hear about facts, you just want to hear what you believe to be true and what has been propagated by whatever organization or party you have an allegiance to, in actuality you are the dangerous people of the US, you don't look for the truth, you look for people who agree with you. All you have shown is where your bias lies, and your opinion should be jugded based upon that. I bet you watch comedy central for your news...


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LuNaSeA
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quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno
I bet you watch comedy central for your news...




and where do you get Your news, mr. high and mighty?


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and where do you get Your news, mr. high and mighty?


FOX news and CNN


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quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno
Uh what are you talking about, most of the movie is factually inaccurate. It was scrutinized by whom? By Moore? By Moveon.org? Its all about agendas here not facts, you don't wanna hear about facts, you just want to hear what you believe to be true and what has been propagated by whatever organization or party you have an allegiance to, in actuality you are the dangerous people of the US, you don't look for the truth, you look for people who agree with you. All you have shown is where your bias lies, and your opinion should be jugded based upon that. I bet you watch comedy central for your news...


Mizzuno


you're a funny guy. Moore knows he's espousing propaganda. he does use editing to his advantage. yet, he states irrefutable facts. I guess it's also false to say that the current Prime Minister for Iraq is actually a CIA operative who has access to very sensitive knowledge and is friendly with Bush? No shit Moore has an agenda, that's why he made this film. Bush and his spinless, greedy cronies also have an agenda. do you see that???


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Behold, my arse.

i didn't ask you, mr tulanecheeseburgerandfries90210!


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quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
FOX news and CNN


well considering one is fascist and the other is communist...wouldn't Mizzuno be REALLY conflicted?


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Originally posted by LuNaSeA
i didn't ask you, mr tulanecheeseburgerandfries90210!


errr..okay?


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