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Originally posted by bruddahmanmatt If it weren't for filesharing, I probably wouldn't know of half the EDM artists that I do. I download a lot, but I also buy a lot if I like what I hear. While people need to realize that the artists/labels/producers need monitary support, the artists/labels/producers also need to realize that if it weren't for mp3s, many of their tracks wouldn't be as popular as they are. At least for the lesser known artists/labels/producers. mp3s are a double edged sword. The smaller guys love em because they get their music out there fast, but the big dogs hate it because they know that their music will be heard regardless of mp3 rips of their tracks.

Thats merely as a publicity tool, personally i find out all my tracks from livesets not from the full vinyl rips.

But whether or you not agree people still have the view "as i would not buy it, so they loose no cash to me.." which in turn says they wouldnt want it as it isnt free.

Also the fact that people say that they support the artists, which is good but there is still a majority that doesn't support the scene.

Its probably the same people that think their opinion counts for something.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i only thing i hate about CDs is that they scratch so easily. i know that vinyl isn't the best at that as it slowly deteriorates, but i alwas have scratches all over my cds and then they suck! what do you do about that Nell?

put them back in their cases when you are done with them! i've got a shti load of CD's as you know, very few have scratches (less than 10). if you insist on leaving them out on your desk or whatever, put them silver side up. if you want to repair scratches either do it the cheap way by rubbing toothpaste into them, or you can have you cd recovered by removing hte plastic on the bottom side (so theres just the paper like metalic disc left) and having it resurfaced with new plastic (but thats only worht it if the disc is unreplacable).

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this is the most bullshit thread i've ever read on TA! wtf is the matter with half of you? no one gives a fuck about your opinions... trust me on that one.

the bottom line is this: the people who run 'mp3 release groups' are people who get their greasy hands on promo material and make mp3 rips out of them, right? i'm sure you all knew that...

so it is simple to make the connection that mp3 release groups are entirely responsible for the illegal uploading/download/sharing of music.

if you want to stop all this, you have to 'nip it in the bud', as they say, you have to solve the issue at the root of the problem.

ELIMINATE MP3 RELEASE GROUPS and you end it all. you end the utter decimation of electronica and you solve the problem.

getting mad at a DJ for spinning a track he/she got online is fucking WEAK. that's one lame ass place to channel your anger...

in the end, the DJ is not responsible for anything; the mp3 release groups are entirely to blame.

-KidConscious aka Streetlight

p.s.: i have given you the solution, but don't reply asking 'how should we do this' because i do not know and ultimately, i do not care. i download loads mp3s and i'll continue doing it. i'm simply telling you that being angry at a DJ for playing unreleased music is pathetic... good luck with your problem though

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Most Wanted Tracks:
>Elevation + Gabriel & Dresden - Athena
>Ozgur Can - Illusions
>Starkid - Crayons (Leama & Moor's In Loving Memory Of Starkid Remix)
>Vadim Zhukov - Moscow Morning
>Perry O'Neil - Arise
>Super 8 - Cr8
>Delerium feat. Sarah Mclachlan - Silence (Above & Beyond's 21st Century Remix)

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Originally posted by KidConscious this is the most bullshit thread i've ever read on TA! wtf is the matter with half of you? no one gives a fuck about your opinions... trust me on that one.

Then no one cares about yours either.

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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Then no one cares about yours either.

oh that's real clever... but obviously you do, i mean, you're still replying!

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Most Wanted Tracks:
>Elevation + Gabriel & Dresden - Athena
>Ozgur Can - Illusions
>Starkid - Crayons (Leama & Moor's In Loving Memory Of Starkid Remix)
>Vadim Zhukov - Moscow Morning
>Perry O'Neil - Arise
>Super 8 - Cr8
>Delerium feat. Sarah Mclachlan - Silence (Above & Beyond's 21st Century Remix)

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Originally posted by KidConscious this is the most bullshit thread i've ever read on TA! wtf is the matter with half of you? no one gives a fuck about your opinions... trust me on that one. the bottom line is this: the people who run 'mp3 release groups' are people who get their greasy hands on promo material and make mp3 rips out of them, right? i'm sure you all knew that... so it is simple to make the connection that mp3 release groups are entirely responsible for the illegal uploading/download/sharing of music. if you want to stop all this, you have to 'nip it in the bud', as they say, you have to solve the issue at the root of the problem. ELIMINATE MP3 RELEASE GROUPS and you end it all. you end the utter decimation of electronica and you solve the problem. getting mad at a DJ for spinning a track he/she got online is fucking WEAK. that's one lame ass place to channel your anger... in the end, the DJ is not responsible for anything; the mp3 release groups are entirely to blame. -KidConscious aka Streetlight p.s.: i have given you the solution, but don't reply asking 'how should we do this' because i do not know and ultimately, i do not care. i download loads mp3s and i'll continue doing it. i'm simply telling you that being angry at a DJ for playing unreleased music is pathetic... good luck with your problem though

Some good points made, but your just as bad as these release groups as you put down as you said... 'i do not care. i download loads mp3s and i'll continue doing it'

You couldn't be more hypocritical

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you caught me. i'm a hypocrit when it comes to this matter. you see, i have limited funds when it comes to recreation. i spend my money on music when i can, but the fact of the matter is, my primary source of music is online filesharing.

it is sad, and i'm upset that these mp3 release groups are ruining the electronic scene for the artists, but let me say this:

music is a form art. art is a form of expression, it has been since the dawn of time. music, as an artform, reaches the public and enhances cultural merit in society. music really shouldn't be about money. are we that sad, as a species, that we must place a monitary value on human expression? i say support your favorite artists when you can afford it, but don't forget that music is an art and art is above such a trivial matter as money.

in the end, while i might be a hypocrit, i think we can all agree that being angry at a DJ for sharing new music with the masses for listening purposes is just plain stupid.

you can all sit here and say: 'oh, well i'm a saint and filesharing is wrong!' but i'm being a realist. filesharing robs the artists of money they deserve (well... some of them) but most people are totally dependant on it - including myself.

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-DJ Streetlight- [aka] KidConscious
Most Wanted Tracks:
>Elevation + Gabriel & Dresden - Athena
>Ozgur Can - Illusions
>Starkid - Crayons (Leama & Moor's In Loving Memory Of Starkid Remix)
>Vadim Zhukov - Moscow Morning
>Perry O'Neil - Arise
>Super 8 - Cr8
>Delerium feat. Sarah Mclachlan - Silence (Above & Beyond's 21st Century Remix)

what about the djs who get FREE promos all the time. they arent paying for it. alot of people are happy to get their music played @ no charge.

conscious...

you know what? there is a difference of course between a professional dj and a fan of the music. no one expects someone that isn't doing it professionally to buy every single record that comes out. just do what you can to support the scene that you love...whether it be going to the shows and buying the cds or buying vinyl.

the difference is when you are a professional or an aspiring dj and you are taking material that hasn't been released and you don't own and using it. that's fucked up.

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Originally posted by KidConscious this is the most bullshit thread i've ever read on TA! wtf is the matter with half of you? no one gives a fuck about your opinions... trust me on that one. the bottom line is this: the people who run 'mp3 release groups' are people who get their greasy hands on promo material and make mp3 rips out of them, right? i'm sure you all knew that... ELIMINATE MP3 RELEASE GROUPS and you end it all. you end the utter decimation of electronica and you solve the problem. KidConscious aka Streetlight p.s.: i have given you the solution, but don't reply asking 'how should we do this' because i do not know and ultimately, i do not care. i download loads mp3s and i'll continue doing it.

mp3 release groups?? there is no such thing! Anyone with Nero can change a wave file to an MP3. You can't stop the millions & millions of people who have Nero to stop creating MP3s.

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Originally posted by bagguley As for the issue of it being my fault!!??!! Promotion of a track is very difficult in the current climate. How can we not send out any copies!?!? The track would fall on its arse!!! How many of you listen to ASOT and really want the tracks Armin plays.. this is how tracks gain hype.. we need to send tracks out.. the problem now seems that some of the A - B list DJ's we supply with music feel the need to upload and share it..

Like I said, unless you keep a track bottled up until the day of its release there is a chance that someone with a promo copy will upload the mp3. This is an unfortunate but unavoidable fact of life. But you're already looking into digital signatures, which is a great solution.

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