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walkindude
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

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Originally posted by discojoe
Europe is not the EDM haven everyone thinks it is. Look at the love parade 99 it was a million and a half.. now look at it. Look at all the magazines in europe that have folded. I have studied here in south america and met dozens and dozens of europeans and while they might have been a little more open minded, with the exception of a couple who had heard of paul van dyk (and disliked him) none of them had any idea about dance music. Its more popular, but trust me it is still underground. Rap is far, far more popular than house in europe. The rave scene used to be a platform for rebelious kids.. now the only people who listen to it are computer nerds sitting in their parents basements who have nothing better to do than argue.. the only people who have time to actually find the shit. (only difference is I sit in my own basement). House music isnt cool anywhere. You are not cool anywhere in this world anymore if you listen to electronic music. You are a looser


GUY, did you watch the olympics.....TIESTO was all over the place...the worry now is, should EDM become mainstream, would "we" want to keep listening to it....Frankly, I like the whole underground concept of it.....

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djshan
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quote:
Originally posted by walkindude
GUY, did you watch the olympics.....TIESTO was all over the place...the worry now is, should EDM become mainstream, would "we" want to keep listening to it....Frankly, I like the whole underground concept of it.....


it should become mainstream the underground way, it shouldnt be broadcasted on local radio and tv stations. i dont know how that will work, but it should be something like that.

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starsearcher
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I don't understand why you people have such a strong desire to keep it underground? I really don't see a reason for it...can someone explain?


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discojoe
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take a bus down to santiago or make your way across the andes to buenos aires and the beaches there and then tell me that same sentence.


all right all right.. you may have a point with BA. Iv been there but never been to a rave. (going to try to make it for creamfields) As far as Chile goes, its definitely more popular than north america but every where there's both dance and hip hop rooms, Hip hop rooms have the hotties, dance rooms have the uglies.

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starsearcher
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Originally posted by discojoe ... but every where there's both dance and hip hop rooms, Hip hop rooms have the hotties, dance rooms have the uglies.


Yes but ONLY in north america...I don't know about south america but most definitely not in Europe. It's more of a north american thing unfortunately.


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walkindude
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quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
I don't understand why you people have such a strong desire to keep it underground? I really don't see a reason for it...can someone explain?


Thats a tough question, the reason I'd like it kept underground is because its cool to know that only a minority like it, and it keeps it exclusive.

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djshan
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Originally posted by starsearcher
I don't understand why you people have such a strong desire to keep it underground? I really don't see a reason for it...can someone explain?


well i dont care if its not underground outside north america, but if its in north america, and trance becomes mainstream, expect the "gino" invasion.

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jon jon
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how many fucking times can this thread get hi-jacked.

p.s p.diddy got booed in ibiza, it's over. lol


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MarkT
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I don't understand why you people have such a strong desire to keep it underground? I really don't see a reason for it...can someone explain?


the REAL answer for a lot of people is because they're elitist and feel the need to be into something that's relatively "underground". These types of people don't truly love the MUSIC itself, they love the exclusivity of the scene and once the genre goes really mainstream, they'll just look for the next "underground" movement to follow. I personally find that to be pretty lame...

A better reason, one that I agree with to a great extent, is that as soon as something becomes mainstream, a whole shitload of cheeseym low quality filler DJs and bands come on board, ruining the genre as a whole (witness "grunge"...good quality music with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, etc...then it went really maintream and you have a gajillion copycat bands who possess a fraction of the talent, at best).

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walkindude
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quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
the REAL answer for a lot of people is because they're elitist and feel the need to be into something that's relatively "underground". These types of people don't truly love the MUSIC itself, they love the exclusivity of the scene and once the genre goes really mainstream, they'll just look for the next "underground" movement to follow. I personally find that to be pretty lame...

A better reason, one that I agree with to a great extent, is that as soon as something becomes mainstream, a whole shitload of cheeseym low quality filler DJs and bands come on board, ruining the genre as a whole (witness "grunge"...good quality music with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, etc...then it went really maintream and you have a gajillion copycat bands who possess a fraction of the talent, at best).


you just contradicted your self....but I agree with the second reason...local charts in europe dont have a lot of this stuff playing on their radio...sure there is an occasaional artist here and there but not all the time..so the question is, is EDM really mainstream there or is still underground...

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TheVrk
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Registered: Nov 2003
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Originally posted by MarkT


A better reason, one that I agree with to a great extent, is that as soon as something becomes mainstream, a whole shitload of cheeseym low quality filler DJs and bands come on board, ruining the genre as a whole (witness "grunge"...good quality music with Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, etc...then it went really maintream and you have a gajillion copycat bands who possess a fraction of the talent, at best).



well said m8

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discojoe
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Originally posted by halo20
how many fucking times can this thread get hi-jacked.

p.s p.diddy got booed in ibiza, it's over. lol


2500 posts.. you should know what happens to every thread here. conversations wander. it happens in real life and it happens in forums.

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