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Originally posted by Floorfiller i think what amber was trying to say, and towards the thread starter as well, is that producers don't make their livings soley off of producing. a lot of very successful producers like L-Vee, Noel Sanger, and others have regular jobs in addition to their work in the industry so they aren't making a ton of money off their records and that's why people should buy them. they aren't professional dj's making millions a year, they are just like us only making the music that we love.

I have no problems with that and I support that!
I only said that they should not count on making trance as thier main resort of making money for living...

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Originally posted by m0sh I have no problems with that and I support that! I only said that they should not count on making trance as thier main resort of making money for living...

most of that was directed towards the idiot who started the thread hehehe...i know what you said...we're good

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i think what amber was trying to say, and towards the thread starter as well, is that producers don't make their livings soley off of producing. a lot of very successful producers like L-Vee, Noel Sanger, and others have regular jobs in addition to their work in the industry so they aren't making a ton of money off their records and that's why people should buy them. they aren't professional dj's making millions a year, they are just like us only making the music that we love.

Exactly


But like I said before...there are tons of them that it is their only source of income. Either way it shouldn't matter. To say it is no big deal because they all make tons of money is straight up bullshit. That was small minded and that comment was the whole reason why I posted in this thread.

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Originally posted by trancebrat Exactly But like I said before...there are tons of them that it is their only source of income. Either way it shouldn't matter. To say it is no big deal because they all make tons of money is straight up bullshit. That was small minded and that comment was the whole reason why I posted in this thread.

When are you making a CD...I wanna buy it

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 When are you making a CD...I wanna buy it

amber i'm gonna have to tell you all about my plans for an artist album (ok well when i get skills hahaha)...but i dunno...you might try and steal all my stuff and give it to terry

it really is funny how ppl think ppl who put out a record have tons of it... i am personally not totally opposed to sharing live sets and ssuch, and i agree that the major labels screw the consumer on one end and the artist on the other, but let us be clear: file sharing hurts EDM WAAAAY more than it does mainstream music. it is not the only cause of lagging vinyl sales, and we can look at a lot of factors but it still hurts. i have a really in depth analysis of the situation that i consider to be quite definitive, but i will save it for another day.

the point is that i have been doing this a long time. 150 or so releases going back a decade, and i have dj'ed all over the world. i consider myself a professional dj but not making millions a year... i HAD to get a "day job" teaching MIDI as i found myself with a family to support and circumstances that had become far less favorable than they had once been. i am not a person who makes "trance because it is easy" but i am a songwriter who loves to use dance music as his idiom. i have never departed from my vision of music and now financially that seems to have been a mistake. so i found myself making the best music i ever had, all the top dj's playing it, remixing for labels all over the world (perfecto, nettwerk, release, etc) and unable to keep the rent paid. i found myself on tour with the #1 dj in the world for 2 years, sometimes making 1/100th of his fee- on the PS2 tour making less than the video guys. always with a smile, always pushing fwd because i believe in the music. i don't even really aspire to some standard of wealth or opulence, my goal has always just been to be able to sustain my efforts at making music, in the climate of the industry right now, that has become increasingly difficult. there are many many reasons for that but i do believe that file sharing is one.

now i am also fine with my having a job and i am quite ok with the acceptance level of my current tunes. i just fiind it ironic that i can be at my most "known" point in my career and be making less money from it than ever. and let me also say this: i have been far less prolific than i would like to be since i had to take on another job and dedicate time to other pursuits. it is a fact that if the genre is to progress, people need to be able to dedicate themselves to making music full time, and that is becoming impossible for all but a select few.

peeeez

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Originally posted by Stanza I've gotta say that I do d/l sets, tracks ,etc but also pay for my music IF it is worth paying for.

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isnt he confusing downloading live sets (which is legal) to downloading Single tracks (which isnt legal)

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everyone needs to take a deep breath

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Just let it die already.

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