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Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor Just make sure the BPM feature stays off. You'll have a solid mixer

i've always wondered if u could turn the bpm off cuz I've been debating over the djm 300 and th pcv 275, but was a bit turned off from the djm 300s cuz i wasn't sure if u could turn off the bpm counter or not

the price of pcv 275s just went down to $300 cuz they're discontinuing em, i'm lookin into those

wats better, the djm 300s or the pcv 275s?

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Originally posted by Geoff i've always wondered if u could turn the bpm off cuz I've been debating over the djm 300 and th pcv 275, but was a bit turned off from the djm 300s cuz i wasn't sure if u could turn off the bpm counter or not the price of pcv 275s just went down to $300 cuz they're discontinuing em, i'm lookin into those wats better, the djm 300s or the pcv 275s?

Wow 300? Ive heard polar reviews on vestax, its either really bad or really good, but I personally have never played around with one. From the pictures and the features it looks like a solid build, carl cox supports it...its gotta be good (Marketing technique i know...) Also as trance mentioned, he wants to get 2 TT's with a cd player, this has 3 channels. Can anyone enlighten us with DJM 300 vs PCV 275 as geoff said.

IMO the pcv275 shits all over the djm300. not only on value-for money, but for features as well. the 275 is an incredibly durable and well built mixer with beautiful faders and x-fader. it also has kill switches and effect send/return, plus the extra channel and the inputs that go with it. it looks sexier, its more versatile, andn its got the front input, and an extra headfone socket. it has 2 mic inputs with 2 band eq on both, as well as effects loop availability on the mic.

the djm300 is also a great mixer, but the price is a bit much for what it is (although if you are in america, you can get the rebate deal which makes it an uber-bargain). the eq's are probably a little better (although there isn't much in it IMO). it also has great faders and x-fader, but whether they will outlast the vestax PCV faders is doubtful. if you are wanting 3 inputs, i would say go for the 275 as the djm300 is only a 2 channel mixer, and thus limits your potential to progress. it is also missing the effect send/recieve, and it only has 1 mic input, which is uselessly placed on the back of the mixer, and has no proper eq.

in short, the pcv275 is the better mixer.

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thnx for the review tu_face u've reassured me about getting the 275s

the pioneer mixer rebate doesn't apply for the djm 300s, they only apply for the ones listed on the rebate like the 500s and 600s which are way expensive in the first place

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Originally posted by Geoff thnx for the review tu_face u've reassured me about getting the 275s the pioneer mixer rebate doesn't apply for the djm 300s, they only apply for the ones listed on the rebate like the 500s and 600s which are way expensive in the first place

hmm i thought it was all pioneer mixers?

i could be wrong though, not paid much attention as i am not over there

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Originally posted by CosmoKid although your equipment is shit, i think you are blaming it for not matching up beats when you sound like you just dont understand the concept of mixing yet. by no means am i trying to flame you here. i just dont want to see you run out to buy some equipment that is going to match up beats for you. what do you know about mixing?

nahhh... it's alright man...

ummmm... i haven't done much.... any.... reserach... but the first thing i do when mixing is make sure the beat (doof, doof doof), is playing at exactly the same speed/pace...

The problem i have now is lining them up... which i can't do. The reason for this is there's no way for me to preview... and nor is there a way for me to stop/start at exactly the SAME point at the start of a beat.

It doesn't have mixers right... so i can't decide which side's bass I want, and nor can i decide what frequencies i want played from either of the 2 channels....

it's all quiete frustrating..

i don't give a fuck much about getting two differnet songs to mix up, as in grabbing a vocal on one track, and slapping the beat from another... what i really want is soemthign good enough to allow me to select anytrack to play in a front of a crowd, without fucking up the beats...

the cheapest way would probabyl be to get a mixer for each channel, and decide which bass i want, and cut the bass before changing channels... i mean when i listen to live sets, that's what a lot of the pros seem to do...

ummm..
.this thing has a Left RIght line out...

but that's only speakers right.... it's not channels aye??? i can't hook a mixer up ???

by the sounds of it, there is no cueing system on it(as in you can save where you want it to start playing from)? does the jog wheel in the middle move the track if you have it paused?

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Originally posted by Abhay ummm.. .this thing has a Left RIght line out... but that's only speakers right.... it's not channels aye??? i can't hook a mixer up ???

yeah that is only to go out to an amp or speakers.. those arn't channels unfortunatly.

however, you can fiddle this is there a balance control for each cd player?

if there is, put one on 100% left, and the other on 100% right, then you can buy a phono splitter for each side (about £1) to make each signal into 2 phono plugs as opposed to one, then wire each channel through the mixer like that.

to be honest though, its is more recommended to go and get your money back on that thing if you can, then get a couple of cheap cd decks. even the cheap nasty stanton ones will be better than what you have at the moment

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Originally posted by tu_face by the sounds of it, there is no cueing system on it(as in you can save where you want it to start playing from)? does the jog wheel in the middle move the track if you have it paused? yeah that is only to go out to an amp or speakers.. those arn't channels unfortunatly. however, you can fiddle this is there a balance control for each cd player? if there is, put one on 100% left, and the other on 100% right, then you can buy a phono splitter for each side (about £1) to make each signal into 2 phono plugs as opposed to one, then wire each channel through the mixer like that. to be honest though, its is more recommended to go and get your money back on that thing if you can, then get a couple of cheap cd decks. even the cheap nasty stanton ones will be better than what you have at the moment

but look at that vestax photo... it has left right line in..... i can hook that up to mine... but yeah... that's the exact same in/out as my stereo TV etc.... so ur probably right..... BUT UMM! i don't believe they go to speakers bro..... because i have differnet output for speakers... it's just raw wiring (like when hooking up subs to amps in cars), not a proper jack thingo type stuff... so now i just have no fucking idea... I'll take a photo of the output then soon.....

man, i don't think there's balance... all there is, is the two separate volumes (see the bars in the left and right, with 1 and 2 written under them), then there's that cross-fader at the bottom (that's the orange one in teh middle, under the wheel thing in the centre). i think i'm getting confused, because u said i din't have gain control.... is that an automated thing is it? because the thing is the bars with channel 1 and channel 2 written under them are purely for the separate volumes of the two mixers.

it's a fake scratch pad in the middle.... kinda distracting when i'm djing, because it actualyl makes sound effects.... and i loose concentration becasue i start playing wiht it...

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Originally posted by Abhay but look at that vestax photo... it has left right line in..... i can hook that up to mine... but yeah... that's the exact same in/out as my stereo TV etc.... so ur probably right..... BUT UMM! i don't believe they go to speakers bro..... because i have differnet output for speakers... it's just raw wiring (like when hooking up subs to amps in cars), not a proper jack thingo type stuff... so now i just have no fucking idea... I'll take a photo of the output then soon..... man, i don't think there's balance... all there is, is the two separate volumes (see the bars in the left and right, with 1 and 2 written under them), then there's that cross-fader at the bottom (that's the orange one in teh middle, under the wheel thing in the centre). i think i'm getting confused, because u said i din't have gain control.... is that an automated thing is it? because the thing is the bars with channel 1 and channel 2 written under them are purely for the separate volumes of the two mixers. it's a fake scratch pad in the middle.... kinda distracting when i'm djing, because it actualyl makes sound effects.... and i loose concentration becasue i start playing wiht it...

heh your getting confused with this gain thing...look at this pic again:



above each channel is 5 knobs right, the bottom 3 are eqs for bass, mids and treb;e. then above that you have balance for each channel, then above that you gave gain control (sometimes called trim). if you look at the right hand side of the mixer, there are 3 rows of LED's, the left hand 2 are the master VU meter (basically shows the volume) for what is playing out of the speakers. the other one is the cue VU meter, for what is playing in your headphones. you use the gain control to change the volume of the tune before the faders, so you match up the master VU and the cue VU, so that they are the same level. then you can just push the fader right up to the top without a fear of it being too loud.

but anyway, this is by the by, the thing you have does not have gain control.

about the speakers, some speakers do have that input, they are usually self powered speakers which do not need a seperate amplifier. the speakers you speak of are not powered speakers, and the bare wires go into the back of the amp.

if you havent got balance controls then i am afraid you can't hook that up to a mixer and have each cd player playing through different channels.

sorry if i confused you by the way!

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Originally posted by tu_face heh your getting confused with this gain thing...look at this pic again: above each channel is 5 knobs right, the bottom 3 are eqs for bass, mids and treb;e. then above that you have balance for each channel, then above that you gave gain control (sometimes called trim). if you look at the right hand side of the mixer, there are 3 rows of LED's, the left hand 2 are the master VU meter (basically shows the volume) for what is playing out of the speakers. the other one is the cue VU meter, for what is playing in your headphones. you use the gain control to change the volume of the tune before the faders, so you match up the master VU and the cue VU, so that they are the same level. then you can just push the fader right up to the top without a fear of it being too loud. but anyway, this is by the by, the thing you have does not have gain control. about the speakers, some speakers do have that input, they are usually self powered speakers which do not need a seperate amplifier. the speakers you speak of are not powered speakers, and the bare wires go into the back of the amp. if you havent got balance controls then i am afraid you can't hook that up to a mixer and have each cd player playing through different channels. sorry if i confused you by the way!

I don't wanna be a DJ anymore... lisetning is juuuussstttt finnneee...








but umm... then wat te hell do the bars (above the 1 and the 2), in the photos I took do then? because all i know is that they control the volume of the two differnt CDS that are playing. I use them to mach up volume, so when i fade, i don't have to worry about it being loud/soft and having it sound weird becasue all the sudden the volume needs to change.... i don't understand, because this si exactly wat u said gain does bro...