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verminator
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quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
Tekno sucks anyway..it died...Jukx..




haheHEahEAHah
techno is one of the genres that grows extremly fast atm

and to the person who said that 2 unlimited is techno.. omg

plz do some research in the subject you about to post something abou before you say something like that..

thats actually one of the funniest things i have seen on this foruM

anyways, dont let this thread develope to a huge flame

cant we all agree that ppl have different taste, and leave it there
ok me and jukx love techno + lots of others in here, but that aint meaning that we cant hang around..

remeber, its "MUSIC discussion" forum, not trance only
techno is music, in fact its even older than trance
respect that!

greetZ!

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I have a funny feeling this thread is gonna be closed...


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Old Post Nov-21-2001 23:13  Russia
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The main reason why these thread end up in flame wars is because people generally don't like to read negative opinions. I have been called names before for dissing Warp Brothers simply because my opinion was negative, people don't like negative opinions so if you didn't state them it would really cut out a lot of these fights.

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Jukx
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quote:
Originally posted by sovereign


but seriesly I am getting really fed up with these close minded assholes like you posting shit about techno . i don,t care if trance came out of techno , you don,t come onto a trance site and flaming .

Can you explain why it,s cheese ?


Ok, wiseguy... instead of posting msgs with an abominable font you could read the thread.
Cause I never compared trance to techno. My statement was: You can't say Uplifting Trance is making a comeback just because Rank 1 and Gouryella are coming with a new album. It takes more than two (cheezy or not) producers to revive a genre. I never said I hated all trance, there are other forms of trance I do like. I just don't like the uplifting ****.
It was you guys who interpret it like "Oh techno rulez and all trance sucks."

Pfff... it's not only musical education some people in here require.

Oh, thanks for ruining a fine thread Sovereing.


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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Wilson
The main reason why these thread end up in flame wars is because people generally don't like to read negative opinions. I have been called names before for dissing Warp Brothers simply because my opinion was negative, people don't like negative opinions so if you didn't state them it would really cut out a lot of these fights.


Well, that's because some people in here are too stupid too handle some criticism.. why can't we have negative opinions? Is this some sort of ass-licking board where everyone has to agree with everybody? BLEGH!
If everyone would a bit more mature we could have normal discussions over here.

And then they say I am the one to leave this board.. I think it's better for people like that dumbass, Sovereign, to leave this board and go back to kindergarden.


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Not closeing the thread because of ONE IDIOT

However i am sure the rest of you TA members will be glad to know i have asked Swamper to ban our latest abusive member "sovereign"

So please if he posts any more IGNORE HIM no matter what he says to u, to me, to anyone
He is an idiot who will only get off on himself if you reply to his abuse
Ignore him !

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Old Post Nov-22-2001 00:34  United Kingdom
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Kia Kaha
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*Sigh* another interesting thread wrecked by James M aka Sovereign

I don't want to fan the flames here but I really have to make comment on this one USSR Junkie ...

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Listen to me, moffo... it seems to me that u know not a single shit about electronic music. What u are saying is ridiculous. Did u know that your cheese that u call (uplifting) trance evolved from techno?? Techno was on the floor even before your cheese was born. Millions of people were and are addicted to it! Do u really think it's died?? No dumbass - it is gonna take a long time for techno to die! U probably think when trance was born everybody forgot techno and started to listen to trance LOL

Right ... don't you think you're displaying exactly the same kind of narrow mindedness that you're accusing trance[]control and the rest of us uplifting lovers of having? OK, so the evolution of trance music and culture was influenced by techno. Cool. It also draws heavily on the influences of rave, the whole early '90s manchester scene, the south east asian and indian hippie culture, '80s electronica, and a whole host of other stuff too complex to mention here. You can follow those influences right back another generation to Herbie Hancock and through him to James Brown, the blues, slave songs and African tribal rhythms of hundreds of centuries ago. No style of music is conceived in a vacuum you know ... it's all influenced by what's gone before it and what's gone before that. Techno, uplifting trance, whatever - you make it sound as though Adam and Eve were listening to bloody techno

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Guess what dude?? Techno is not only alive but it still evolves! and i wouldn't say the same thing about trance

Yah right. Even you don't really think that ... go and re read the first 3 or 4 pages of this entire thread, there are some really good comments from the likes of Paul Wilson, Dumonde Trancer, boy_luke_y2k, patticus, mindshooter, Eugene and specially that one from Ibiza Dreams on page 3, about how uplifting trance is evolving and getting stronger the whole time. Have a listen to some of the tracks those guys have mentioned, and compare them to trance of a few years ago ... and try to tell me trance isn't alive and evolving.

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I almost laugh when someone starts those threads with titles "Has uplifting trance really died?, "IS Hard House new Trance?", "What happened to the trance scene?" LOL Doesn't it say anything to u Such threads appear more and more often... think about it If i were u, i would rather worry about (uplifting) trance that IS dying And in some time it will die out as Happy Hardcore did . And then, there will exist techno and some other new electronic genres LOL U should understand that many people are still addicted to techno and your trance will never replace it, ever!

Now, when i'm done u can go and continue to enjoy your "music" while it is still alive

It's not about trance "replacing" techno or vice versa. I'll certainly listen to my cheezy uplifting trance music for as long as it's still alive - and trust me pal it will be, long after all of us are in our rocking chairs. What is so special about techno that will protect it from suffering the same fate?

I'll tell you one thing for free my friend - any kind of music whether it's techno, trance, R&B or goddam spanish flamenco goat dancing, will thrive only for as long as it's fed continuously from the bottom with a new supply of producers & artists, new innovations and most importantly new fans of the music. If it loses those ingredients, that's when it dies.

I'm not too worried about uplifting trance suffering that fate at the moment ... so maybe all the transient fashion followers from '99 have moved onto the next big thing (UK garage last year, hard house this year, woop de doo ) but the heart and soul of the uplifting scene is still intact. More importantly, you only have to look at the DJs that headline the really big dance festivals, and you will see that uplifting trance remains easily the most popular style of dance music on the planet.

You can hardly not see the supreme irony in the fact that you have to come and spend your time hanging out on to a hugely popular trance music website like this, with thousands of users from all over the world, to make your arguments about how techno is so vibrant and trance is dead


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Old Post Nov-22-2001 16:19  Scotland
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quote:
Originally posted by Kia Kaha


I'll tell you one thing for free my friend - any kind of music whether it's techno, trance, R&B or goddam spanish flamenco goat dancing, will thrive only for as long as it's fed continuously from the bottom with a new supply of producers & artists, new innovations and most importantly new fans of the music. If it loses those ingredients, that's when it dies...

More importantly, you only have to look at the DJs that headline the really big dance festivals, and you will see that uplifting trance remains easily the most popular style of dance music on the planet.

You can hardly not see the supreme irony in the fact that you have to come and spend your time hanging out on to a hugely popular trance music website like this, with thousands of users from all over the world, to make your arguments about how techno is so vibrant and trance is dead


Preach on brova, very well said, I agree with all of that. Haha, spanish flamenco goat dancing, I couldn't stop laughing... I'm from Spain too but we don't dance with goats, not that I know of at least.

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Old Post Nov-22-2001 16:34  Spain
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Smoking ..umm..something That told him!

Well that told him!

Nice One

Although no doubt he will come back with something else.

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USSR Junkie, it's not about what he said or what she said, it's about not lowering to yourself to their level. Everyone on here knows that there are less mature people on these boards, but why bother fighting with them if they don't know better? Just a thought, because if you do respond to them with the same shit-talking and immaturity they showed you, that means that you are NO BETTER than they are! So both of you are the fools! So let's try to keep this thread on track since some people might want to say a little more!!

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Old Post Nov-22-2001 17:52  Spain
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It's not surprising that there are these flame wars here.
Every one of us has a strong passion for some kind of music.


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Old Post Nov-22-2001 18:05  Russia
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Cool Re: what about transa?

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Have yall forgotten about TRANSA with such hits as Carla's theme featured on Gatecrasher cds.....and their remix of tenshi of gouryella and remix of sparkles from Tiesto? They have a new album due out in Feb 2002


sorry m8, but from what i've heard transa are going progressive, haven't got any of their new stuff, so i suggest u do a bit of research.

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