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00soups00
cruzin



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
its a perk.

its also good for my heart. awwwwww
aww nah shes a qt.


you're a regular old Shakespeare now mr PLees

Old Post Apr-13-2005 01:51  Australia
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queen_vee
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
um yeah. coz producing QUALITY trance tunes is just a piece of cake. and the lyrics in trance songs are just SO complicated, deep and meaningful


hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

and soups- i stand by song choices! i honestly believe the tracks i like are the most beautiful/clever/fun whatever in the world... and that would be why i like them uh huh?!

Old Post Apr-13-2005 01:55  Australia
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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.


vocals dont necessarily add any more melody to a song than is already there. in fact the vocals are just another layer of the song.

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.


um dude, youre lecturing the guy who won the recent Oz production competition, methinks he knows a lot more about production of quality trance tunes than youre giving him credit for. and theres no way in hell a computer is ever going to write better music than a talented musician. im thinking perhaps your tastes are a lil easier to fulfill if you think \"synthing\" up a bad melody makes it sound \"alright\".


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 02:04  Australia
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Light The Fuse
Training Tranceaddicts



Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Fist Pumping, Au

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
you're a regular old Shakespeare now mr PLees

i always was.

anywho ya vocal trance...


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 02:18  Australia
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Nyquist_Theorem
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: back in Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.


...and then you got back into your time machine, returned to 2005, and said 'yeah, but 2017 ain't all that. slurpees are banned for being carcinogenic, sasha's done a moby and is making bad punk, and JPL's spinning 'hits of the last century' at the local retirement home!'

Old Post Apr-13-2005 03:54  Australia
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one.tjc
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: gold.coast

imho less vocals the better.

[with some obvious exceptions]


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:12  Australia
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escee
q1dm6



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
infact most vocal tunes released through 'xtravaganza' are complete rubbish


Chicane - No Ordinary Morning / Halcyon (http://www.discogs.com/release/126977)
Chicane - Don't Give Up (http://www.discogs.com/release/126960)
Chicane - Autumn Tactics (http://www.discogs.com/release/126967)
Agnelli & Nelson - Holding On To Nothing (http://www.discogs.com/release/240904)

Nyquist talks a lot of shit too.

Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:19  Australia
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jizza
boys dont cry



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: smellbourne

quote:
Originally posted by escee
Agnelli & Nelson - Holding On To Nothing (http://www.discogs.com/release/240904)


no escee i really really really dont like this track.


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:25  New Zealand
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christos
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: 42

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
hey! never said trance lyrics were deep and meaningful, mainly they just sound sweet. BUT, if someone is singing, there's gotta be a tune someone has written, yes? a decent tune is very hard to create.

pho mo, if you've got enough party tricks on your computer you don't have to write a melody cos there's so many layers and it's all stored there for you, ready to add at whatever minute mark your little heart so desires. if you can't write a melody too well on your keyboard then synth it up and it'll sound alright. i've a friend with a sensational program for writing tracks and the bloody computer does the entire thing for you. you could be a complete moron when it came to 'composing' tracks and it would still sound ok! actually made me go off trance for quite a while.

and soups- i stand by song choices! i honestly believe the tracks i like are the most beautiful/clever/fun whatever in the world... and that would be why i like them uh huh?!


ok now...settle down...please!


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:26  Australia
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Light The Fuse
Training Tranceaddicts



Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Fist Pumping, Au

quote:
Originally posted by Nyquist_Theorem
...and then you got back into your time machine, returned to 2005, and said 'yeah, but 2017 ain't all that. slurpees are banned for being carcinogenic, sasha's done a moby and is making bad punk, and JPL's spinning 'hits of the last century' at the local retirement home!'


LOL ill fukin rock those granmas sox man.
Theyll need to up the dosage on the iv's.


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Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:29  Australia
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queen_vee
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
vocals dont necessarily add any more melody to a song than is already there. in fact the vocals are just another layer of the song.



um dude, youre lecturing the guy who won the recent Oz production competition, methinks he knows a lot more about production of quality trance tunes than youre giving him credit for. and theres no way in hell a computer is ever going to write better music than a talented musician. im thinking perhaps your tastes are a lil easier to fulfill if you think \"synthing\" up a bad melody makes it sound \"alright\".


erm, i can't really remember my original point now! i totally agree with everything you say so in response to this, i think i was only trying to say:

1. computers allow anyone to create some sort of music even if they're untrained or entirely lacking musical talent. i believe 'music' made by a non-musician with the use of a computer software program will sound better than 'music' made by a non-musician bashing away on a piano.
2. if 'sung'(as opposed to whispered sweet nothings or sighs or aaahs) vocals form part of the track then someone has really had to create and write a tune to 'sing.'

but arguments with randoms over the internet is kind of weird so i'll stick to simple postings on this forum now.

- i like some vocal tracks. beautiful things and southern sun and silence have pleasant lyrics and the girls have soothing and/or powerful voices.
- i like some non-vocal tracks. for an angel and insomnia and everyday are incredibly distinctive and powerful compositions.
- i like a nice mix-up of both on the dancefloor and i don't like too many boring fillers.

that is all

Old Post Apr-13-2005 04:44  Australia
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escee
q1dm6



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by jizza
no escee i really really really dont like this track.


As a jaded music lover I quite like it.

Old Post Apr-13-2005 05:31  Australia
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